chitownsportsfan Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Wanne said: in his defense...I don't know wtf Boston was signalling? Looked to me like he was telling him to go. Not very smart... If that fat slug could slide properly he would be safe. But he couldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Just now, chitownsportsfan said: If that fat slug could slide properly he would be safe. But he couldn't. That's the most annoying part,he risked a stupid play to slide like that? jesus christ. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Cedeno fitting right in to the Sox pen with a leadoff walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) Nice play Moncada. Smart to just take it himself. And nice fundamentals on that grounder. Yoan has really been a pleasant surprise overall on defense. Edited June 7, 2018 by chitownsportsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScootsMcGoots Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) How much do you think it would take for the Sox to make a trade for Berrios? hypothetically speaking of course Edited June 7, 2018 by Scoots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, Scoots said: How much do you think it would take for the Sox to make a trade for Berrios? hypothetically speaking of course More than you want to give up. I'd imagine he'll be on FG top 50 trade values. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, Scoots said: How much do you think it would take for the Sox to make a trade for Berrios? hypothetically speaking of course A Sale like price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Shields for Berrios straight up,I think the Twins bite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Just now, southsider2k5 said: A Sale like price. Twins needs pitching and their window is now. Sano, Buxton and Rosario all FA after 2021. Their price would be astronomical. Not sure 2 top 25 prospects and a couple interesting throw ins get in done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 22 minutes ago, fathom said: Escobar trade was fine. At least team was a contender that year. I am not fine with Escobar being a Twins mainstay for 6-7 years. We got de minimus out of Liriano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 One would think a catcher knows how to catch pitches. Not necessarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) 59 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: DFA NARVAEZ RIGHT NOW. Replace him with: Edited June 7, 2018 by Swingandalongonetoleft 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Boys this season is ovah! Wait a minute there’s always tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 1 hour ago, pcq said: I am not fine with Escobar being a Twins mainstay for 6-7 years. We got de minimus out of Liriano. He's been worth less than 1 fWAR per year in his career. Minnesota won that trade for sure but I'm not overly sad about losing a decent bench player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 21 minutes ago, almagest said: He's been worth less than 1 fWAR per year in his career. Minnesota won that trade for sure but I'm not overly sad about losing a decent bench player. https://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=6153&position=3B/SS Not exactly. 7.7 fWAR 2013 0.0 (only 179 at-bats) 2014 2.6 2015 1.9 2016 -0.2 2017 1.7 2018 1.7-1.8 (after today)...but heading for a 5ish season If we count the middle 4 years, 1.5 fWAR player. 11/6=1.83 for six years...hard to say he’s worth 0 or 5 (outliers), but this offseason should be valued at least as a 2-2.5 if not 3 player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) 32 minutes ago, almagest said: He's been worth less than 1 fWAR per year in his career. Minnesota won that trade for sure but I'm not overly sad about losing a decent bench player. Sox front office needs to turn it around. 80 percent of their moves have been horrendous since the awesome WS title. They are living (albeit well right now) off the Sale, Robertson, Q and Eaton trades. Aside from that, pathetic front office since the WS title. Edited June 7, 2018 by greg775 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 2 hours ago, soxfan49 said: He hasn't fixed anyone in years He fixed Shields (for a few starts) and appears to have fixed Soria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 2 hours ago, harkness99 said: Shields should keep his mouth shut for good after this game.. that didn't work out for him to well. I liked what he said. Some folks can't stand losing and our team is all about tanking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 36 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: https://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=6153&position=3B/SS Not exactly. 7.7 fWAR 2013 0.0 (only 179 at-bats) 2014 2.6 2015 1.9 2016 -0.2 2017 1.7 2018 1.7-1.8 (after today)...but heading for a 5ish season If we count the middle 4 years, 1.5 fWAR player. 11/6=1.83 for six years...hard to say he’s worth 0 or 5 (outliers), but this offseason should be valued at least as a 2-2.5 if not 3 player. I'm not comfortable saying a player with a 1.5 WAR average should be valued at 2-3 WAR based on a third of his age 29 season where he's seriously outperformed his career averages and is a prime candidate for regression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 1 hour ago, almagest said: I'm not comfortable saying a player with a 1.5 WAR average should be valued at 2-3 WAR based on a third of his age 29 season where he's seriously outperformed his career averages and is a prime candidate for regression. All true but he is having an Abreu season so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 3 hours ago, greg775 said: He fixed Shields (for a few starts) and appears to have fixed Soria. No and no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 5 hours ago, almagest said: He's been worth less than 1 fWAR per year in his career. Minnesota won that trade for sure but I'm not overly sad about losing a decent bench player. Because we didn't have Escobar, the White Sox wound up spending good money on Emilio Bonifacio. That move in 2013 was a decent gamble because for once, the team was legitimately in the race. But having to spend money on backup players is one consequence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 3 hours ago, pcq said: All true but he is having an Abreu season so far. He won't have an Abreu season by the end of the year. 16 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Because we didn't have Escobar, the White Sox wound up spending good money on Emilio Bonifacio. That move in 2013 was a decent gamble because for once, the team was legitimately in the race. But having to spend money on backup players is one consequence. That's a pretty soft consequence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 We also brought back Beckham, whatever his cost was...it was under $10 million for both, but I’m not sure I would describe it as insignificant to a mid-market team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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