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27 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

I listened to Paxsons interview finally and it was not good

Me too. The guy is so defensive and also rewriting history. 

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Watching how Ujiri has evolved the raptors from their original core, and how the clippers are handling their rebuild is a pretty stark contrast to how the bulls are faring in their evolution from a successful core.

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On 2/7/2019 at 11:08 AM, fathom said:

Just thinking out loud here, but if the Bulls don't get the first pick, wouldn't Morant likely be the best fit with their current core?

Yes but the last thing I'm worried about at the moment is roster construction, you take the best player available.  That said, I'm not convinced that Morant isn't the 2nd best player available in this draft.

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The bulls have thrown out a small lineup with LM at 5 and porter at 4, are running the floor and playing with pace and...look really good.

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On 2/7/2019 at 3:55 PM, whitesoxfan99 said:

I'm going to laugh my ass off if they don't get a top 3 pick come June.

The team with the worst record only has a 52% chance of picking in the top 4. Bulls currently have 48% chance of picking in the top 4. Could go down to 42% chance if they catch up to the Hawks, who have 5 more wins.

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1 hour ago, bmags said:

The bulls have thrown out a small lineup with LM at 5 and porter at 4, are running the floor and playing with pace and...look really good.

 

1 hour ago, bmags said:

 

Was a decent game to watch and the Bulls looked good against a >.500 team. Markkanen 3 straight 30 point games. Felicio almost as good as your average high school team manager.

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On 2/7/2019 at 11:08 AM, fathom said:

Just thinking out loud here, but if the Bulls don't get the first pick, wouldn't Morant likely be the best fit with their current core?

YES

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13 hours ago, BigHurt3515 said:

I feel like if this team can get a good PG and some solid bench pieces they would be a playoff team. There is talent there

This is the most sensible roster construction they’ve had in years (Hoiberg deserves this but whatever at this point). Getting a big upgrade at PG and a star and it would be a good team with enough assets to go in position to land a top 25 guy if one was traded.

If they can change out the FO, things could get better quick.

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I’m I actually think Bulls turned a corner with Porter trade. He is overpaid but he’s a good player who is still young and can help this team get better over the next few years. Much better fit as an all around player than Parker. He is a legitamately good all around wing and I presume his three ball will come back since he’s been good from there most of his career. 

The bulls drastically need an upgrade at point guard and hopefully the right lottery ball. No matter what they aren’t catching the Hawks but I don’t know if they catch the bottom three teams either. Hopefully the ping pong balls go there way and they can get an all pro and then desperately sign a point guard to help push and develop the players. 

Lauri has re emerged lately which is great. Needed that. I still feel like Lauri, Lavine and Wendell will be good NBA players. Not sure if any will be great. 

Bulls can hopefully start turning a corner next year so they can begin targeting free agency a year and two years from now (timing might not be awful as Bron will be older and Warriors will likely be Durant less).

They need to get to good with young players and then see how they can be opportunistic. I think the front office was realistic at the deadline vs worrying too much about cap space for next year (unfortunately the team didn’t step forward fast enough to be able to attract anyone). 

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10 hours ago, Chisoxfn said:

I’m I actually think Bulls turned a corner with Porter trade. He is overpaid but he’s a good player who is still young and can help this team get better over the next few years. Much better fit as an all around player than Parker. He is a legitamately good all around wing and I presume his three ball will come back since he’s been good from there most of his career. 

The bulls drastically need an upgrade at point guard and hopefully the right lottery ball. No matter what they aren’t catching the Hawks but I don’t know if they catch the bottom three teams either. Hopefully the ping pong balls go there way and they can get an all pro and then desperately sign a point guard to help push and develop the players. 

Lauri has re emerged lately which is great. Needed that. I still feel like Lauri, Lavine and Wendell will be good NBA players. Not sure if any will be great. 

Bulls can hopefully start turning a corner next year so they can begin targeting free agency a year and two years from now (timing might not be awful as Bron will be older and Warriors will likely be Durant less).

They need to get to good with young players and then see how they can be opportunistic. I think the front office was realistic at the deadline vs worrying too much about cap space for next year (unfortunately the team didn’t step forward fast enough to be able to attract anyone). 

Honestly? I think you need to stop talking about the Bulls successfully attracting a major free agent, at least any time in the next several years. Not only do we have the Bulls not being good at it, but take a look at how the league is shaping up. Either you have guys going places because they're chasing rings (Durant), guys teaming up to fill multiple slots (anyone who goes to NYY this year, the Heat), or guys going to destination stops (Lebron to LAL, anyone who goes to NYC, Mia). When's the last time a team had space for a max contract and actually landed a major FA without the advantage of "Being Los Angeles"/having Steph Curry"? Furthermore, 2 years from now - know what's going to be in the way of free agency then? Markkanen will be up for his extension and Lavine will still be under contract.

If you want to talk about opportunistic, look at the other teams that are doing it - they're trading first round picks for guys once they're already good. Maybe in a few years the Bulls can get to that point. Building through FA? They're not going to pull it off.

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4 hours ago, Balta1701 said:

Honestly? I think you need to stop talking about the Bulls successfully attracting a major free agent, at least any time in the next several years. Not only do we have the Bulls not being good at it, but take a look at how the league is shaping up. Either you have guys going places because they're chasing rings (Durant), guys teaming up to fill multiple slots (anyone who goes to NYY this year, the Heat), or guys going to destination stops (Lebron to LAL, anyone who goes to NYC, Mia). When's the last time a team had space for a max contract and actually landed a major FA without the advantage of "Being Los Angeles"/having Steph Curry"? Furthermore, 2 years from now - know what's going to be in the way of free agency then? Markkanen will be up for his extension and Lavine will still be under contract.

If you want to talk about opportunistic, look at the other teams that are doing it - they're trading first round picks for guys once they're already good. Maybe in a few years the Bulls can get to that point. Building through FA? They're not going to pull it off.

Besides lucking into drafting a superstar or having one decide he just has to play for you, I do think the route taken by Philly (Butler), OKC (George), Toronto (Kawhi), and probably some others not coming to mind is the best one. Trade for one of those players even if he has been giving signals that he doesn't want to sign with you. See if you can win enough that he won't ever want to leave. You might get burned after you unloaded the truck to get a guy who takes off in a year or two, but you have to play these games if you want to win them. The tanking method is going to get less viable over time anyway with the recent lottery odds changes and the likelihood that the NBA takes more measures to disincentivize tanking.

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17 minutes ago, Jake said:

Besides lucking into drafting a superstar or having one decide he just has to play for you, I do think the route taken by Philly (Butler), OKC (George), Toronto (Kawhi), and probably some others not coming to mind is the best one. Trade for one of those players even if he has been giving signals that he doesn't want to sign with you. See if you can win enough that he won't ever want to leave. You might get burned after you unloaded the truck to get a guy who takes off in a year or two, but you have to play these games if you want to win them. The tanking method is going to get less viable over time anyway with the recent lottery odds changes and the likelihood that the NBA takes more measures to disincentivize tanking.

Right, and Boston with Kawhi and Houston with Harden.

Ideally you build a team like Denver, Utah, Boston with lots of assets and cash them in with enough left over to still have a good team. The bulls constant obssession with Core backs them into a corner where they become skiddish on trading part of "the core" away but also prematurely focusing on complementary players instead of just continuing to add athletic raw players and developing them.

 

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Man has Kris Dunn really regressed. I'd rather see Boylen put LaVine at the 1 and put Dunn on the bench at this point.

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The Bulls actually look decent tonight.....But maybe that is just because Memphis sucks? I'm asking because I'm just starting to really get back into the NBA after a 6 or so year hiatus. Always kept an eye on the Bulls but not so much the rest of the NBA over that span. 

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Roster. Construction.

And Boylen running Hoibergs offense. I didn’t love Hoiberg but it’s ridiculous he didn’t get to have a shot with Lauri this year.

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26 minutes ago, bmags said:

And Boylen running Hoibergs offense.

Thought I was the only one noticing that. Fucking hack.

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Otto Porter doing what he was begged to do in Washington: being more of an initiator and finding his shot. 35 points.

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