Lillian Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Ptatc, it does seem that most of these Tommy John Surgeries are being performed on young pitchers. I can't recall that many veteran hurlers, requiring this procedure. It would be interesting to see a statistic, which could provide the factual evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Here it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 Glad to see we officially dodged the worst case scenario, but sad to see him miss essentially the rest of this season if it ends up on the 8 week end of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Ptatc, correct me if I'm wrong, but this means a slight tear? How much at risk is he at blowing it out? Either way, great news compared to Saturday. I'm fine with him sitting out rest of year as long as no surgery is needed and he has complete recovery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: Glad to see we officially dodged the worst case scenario, but sad to see him miss essentially the rest of this season if it ends up on the 8 week end of things. They could use the AFL to make up for lost time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: They could use the AFL to make up for lost time. AFL could be fun. Dunning, Hansen, & Robert? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Just now, DirtySox said: AFL could be fun. Dunning, Hansen, & Robert? Makes sense to me. All those guys need innings. Wouldn’t be surprised to see Puckett there too for the same reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 11 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: They could use the AFL to make up for lost time. Very true, assuming he is ready it would be a good way to make up some innings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 5 hours ago, fathom said: Ptatc, correct me if I'm wrong, but this means a slight tear? How much at risk is he at blowing it out? Either way, great news compared to Saturday. I'm fine with him sitting out rest of year as long as no surgery is needed and he has complete recovery. The textbook definition is mild sprain about 25% tear, moderate sprain 25%to 75%, severe 75%+. After 6-8 weeks they will re-evaluate to see if he needs surgery based on how loose it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Sox Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Whew, hopefully a bullet dodged for someone who is not just a great prospect but from all I've read a good kid. Hope the Sox are overcautious with his recovery and he is able to start 2019 atop the rotation in Charlotte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 15 hours ago, ptatc said: The textbook definition is mild sprain about 25% tear, moderate sprain 25%to 75%, severe 75%+. After 6-8 weeks they will re-evaluate to see if he needs surgery based on how loose it is. So wouldn't playing with a partially torn... anything, increase the risk of a full tear in the future? Sorry if I'm completely wrong on that but it just seems risky to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jose Abreu said: So wouldn't playing with a partially torn... anything, increase the risk of a full tear in the future? Sorry if I'm completely wrong on that but it just seems risky to me Yes it would. It just depends on if the injury can be reasonably protected, if they should continue to play. If it's an ankle Sprain there are braces that can protect against the motions, rolling the ankle, that would allow the player to continue without further damaging the ligament. The injury may take longer to heal but the risk of further damage is minimal. Over the last decade or so we have learned that tissue does heal faster and stronger if some stress is placed upon it. To make it simple, the tissue aligns better if controlled force is placed upon it. The best example are foot or lower leg fractures. Years ago they would be in a cast for 6-8 weeks to allow healing to occur with no stress or weight. Today they are put in a walking boot as long as the fracture is not displaced. This allows for controlled stress into the fracture and allows for better healing. In bones it's a concept from Wolff's law of bone growth which was postulated 100 years ago but we've only applied it to healing recently. We've since discovered that the same concept works for other tissues as well. Edited June 28, 2018 by ptatc 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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