southsider2k5 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Doubt Jose is moved, Britton would get far more next year (unless he's a FA) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Not possible, Balta said Abreu is donezo and teams can just claim him on waivers in August 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Jose is probably an upgrade over Gattis at DH, and there's some upside for 2019, but I don't see a reason for the Astros to do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, daggins said: Jose is probably an upgrade over Gattis at DH, and there's some upside for 2019, but I don't see a reason for the Astros to do this. If you believe he can be a 140 wRC+ hitter as your DH that’s a pretty sizable upgrade and one that can probably be had on the cheap. Edited July 20, 2018 by Chicago White Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: If you believe he can be a 140 wRC+ hitter as your DH that’s a pretty sizable upgrade and one that can probably be had on the cheap. I don't see any reason to believe that. If the Astros do, I'd be pretty shocked. I think they might believe he's better than Gattis and the Sox will dump him for not much in return. Fangraphs project a wRC+ of 121 rest of way for Jose and 113 for Gattis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Btw is abreu Hurt? April and May he basically was normal abreu but June he had a 600 ops and July even under 500. With a normal slump it is almost impossible to be that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: I don't see any reason to believe that. If the Astros do, I'd be pretty shocked. I think they might believe he's better than Gattis and the Sox will dump him for not much in return. Fangraphs project a wRC+ of 121 rest of way for Jose and 113 for Gattis. Fangraphs doesn’t know how to account for his past month & a half and is just playing the middle. More than likely he’s the same hitter he was in 2017 and the first two months of 2018 (135 to 140 wRC+ bay) or he’s actually fallen off a cliff and will be a bad hitter. I don’t really see how the middle ground is a realistic scenario IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 20 minutes ago, daggins said: Jose is probably an upgrade over Gattis at DH, and there's some upside for 2019, but I don't see a reason for the Astros to do this. agreed...I don't get it. It's not like the Sox are going to just fork him over either...and those effers are stingy with their specs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, dominik-keul@gmx.de said: Btw is abreu Hurt? April and May he basically was normal abreu but June he had a 600 ops and July even under 500. With a normal slump it is almost impossible to be that bad. I think he’s battling some physical ailments. Didn’t he have a foot injury recently? He just doesn’t look comfortable up there despite the fact he looked amazing in April & May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 13 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I think he’s battling some physical ailments. Didn’t he have a foot injury recently? He just doesn’t look comfortable up there despite the fact he looked amazing in April & May. If he's been hurt for this long it's darn near criminal the White Sox didn't put him on the DL mid June. They'd have gotten better production with Davidson there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrathofhahn Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 It's probably best to just wait until next year to move him or take the comp pick but who knows maybe someone offers good value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox72 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 13 hours ago, Wanne said: agreed...I don't get it. It's not like the Sox are going to just fork him over either...and those effers are stingy with their specs... I know we all love Hahn. But does anyone trust he will get the better end of the deal against Luhnow? Or better question - that the two can make a deal together? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sox72 said: I know we all love Hahn. But does anyone trust he will get the better end of the deal against Luhnow? Or better question - that the two can make a deal together? Cutting one-sided deals for vets is not Luhnow's m.o....he pays fair prices for veterans on the trade market. Now you aren't going to get his best prospects ...but that farm system is extremely productive and with careful scouting, Hahn and his scouts should be able to find what they need in the form of ascending, although as yet unranked, prospects. I'd love for Hahn to trade with the Astros. Edited July 21, 2018 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox72 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 2 hours ago, GreenSox said: Cutting one-sided deals for vets is not Luhnow's m.o....he pays fair prices for veterans on the trade market. Now you aren't going to get his best prospects ...but that farm system is extremely productive and with careful scouting, Hahn and his scouts should be able to find what they need in the form of ascending, although as yet unranked, prospects. I'd love for Hahn to trade with the Astros. Yeah. That would be nice. I’m just not sure how much they have left in the farm system (that they’re willing to trade). But admittedly, I don’t know a ton about their system anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Astros will try to buy-low on him (though who knows if Jose will even bounce back). Having said that, I doubt he gets traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 17 hours ago, Balta1701 said: If he's been hurt for this long it's darn near criminal the White Sox didn't put him on the DL mid June. They'd have gotten better production with Davidson there. Abreu must have kicked Baltas dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 11 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Abreu must have kicked Baltas dog. Over last 30 days, he has the third worst fWAR in all of baseball (only Hosmer and VMart worse). On the season, he's one of the 5 worst "high leverage" hitters in baseball. For the season, he's a negative fWAR player now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Stuff Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 36 minutes ago, fathom said: Over last 30 days, he has the third worst fWAR in all of baseball (only Hosmer and VMart worse). On the season, he's one of the 5 worst "high leverage" hitters in baseball. For the season, he's a negative fWAR player now. And we found out he’s 41, not 31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 20 hours ago, Balta1701 said: If he's been hurt for this long it's darn near criminal the White Sox didn't put him on the DL mid June. They'd have gotten better production with Davidson there. "Criminal" 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenericUserName Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 (edited) The Chicago #Whitesox are strongly inclined now to keep 1B Jose Abreu instead of trading him — Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) July 21, 2018 I guess that guarantees we end up trading Jose. Edited July 21, 2018 by GenericUserName Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 14 minutes ago, GenericUserName said: I guess that guarantees we end up trading Jose. I posted some things on twitter about this. Whenever Bob does this, it's usually an indication that the White Sox are using him to negotiate through the media. They really don't have a ton of leverage right now though due to Abreu being bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 1 hour ago, GenericUserName said: I guess that guarantees we end up trading Jose. Kenny still feeding Bob info I see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 21, 2018 Author Share Posted July 21, 2018 Lol, this means the offers for Jose suck, just like everyone thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Stuff Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: Lol, this means the offers for Jose suck, just like everyone thought. Did someone on Twitter ask him about Abreu? I don’t understand his motive for tweeting that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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