ChiSoxJon Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 This article states SEA has been scouting Soria https://www.dailyherald.com/sports/20180724/as-deadline-nears-veteran-pitchers-white-soxs-best-trade-chips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 14 minutes ago, ChiSoxJon said: This article states SEA has been scouting Soria https://www.dailyherald.com/sports/20180724/as-deadline-nears-veteran-pitchers-white-soxs-best-trade-chips Seattle has one of the worst farm systems in the major leagues unfortunately. After their top 5, the talent level really falls off a cliff. I'd much rather trade with other contenders have have more depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 Did someone turn my post into a thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrathofhahn Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Pretty bare farm but they do have Julio Rodriguez. Querecuto. Carlson (arm injury). They still have Kyle Lewis but his stock has taken a big hit. If they did a package around Lewis Julio and Querecuto I would accept it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, wrathofhahn said: Pretty bare farm but they do have Julio Rodriguez. Querecuto. Carlson (arm injury). They still have Kyle Lewis but his stock has taken a big hit. If they did a package around Lewis Julio and Querecuto I would accept it. Don't see that happening but would love it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 44 minutes ago, ChiSoxJon said: Not sure what they'd net and SEA's farm is awful but SS Juan Querecuto and RHP Wyatt Mills interest me...Should be able to net something higher end however Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 I'd love to trade with Houston, but I look at their pen and wonder which pitcher Soria would really upgrade. Maybe Will Harris, but he's been a mainstay for them. Seattle's has been good too. Milwaukee's a possibility - I figured that bullpen as a house of cards a while back, despite its numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 minute ago, GreenSox said: I'd love to trade with Houston, but I look at their pen and wonder which pitcher Soria would really upgrade. Maybe Will Harris, but he's been a mainstay for them. Seattle's has been good too. Milwaukee's a possibility - I figured that bullpen as a house of cards a while back, despite its numbers. Maybe MIL and CHC can get in a bidding war for Shields/Soria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 25 minutes ago, wrathofhahn said: Pretty bare farm but they do have Julio Rodriguez. Querecuto. Carlson (arm injury). They still have Kyle Lewis but his stock has taken a big hit. If they did a package around Lewis Julio and Querecuto I would accept it. For Soria? No way we are getting that much for him, even with Lewis' stock being down. Soria is a two month rental. Think more along the lines of a Seth Elledge and/or Wyatt Mills type prospect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxnfins Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, steveno89 said: For Soria? No way we are getting that much for him, even with Lewis' stock being down. Soria is a two month rental. Think more along the lines of a Seth Elledge and/or Wyatt Mills type prospect Unless someone decided that $10M is fair for him next season. Edited July 25, 2018 by Soxnfins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrathofhahn Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, steveno89 said: For Soria? No way we are getting that much for him, even with Lewis' stock being down. Soria is a two month rental. Think more along the lines of a Seth Elledge and/or Wyatt Mills type prospect It would be Soria and Avilian. Honestly I'm not sold on Lewis at all he's probably barely a top 100 at this point. The two guys I want are Querecuto and Rodriguez. Edited July 25, 2018 by wrathofhahn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 14 minutes ago, wrathofhahn said: It would be Soria and Avilian. Honestly I'm not sold on Lewis at all he's probably barely a top 100 at this point. The two guys I want are Querecuto and Rodriguez. I would do those two for Soria and Avilan all day, but I doubt Seattle would trade both of it's most promising young prospects like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 36 minutes ago, wrathofhahn said: It would be Soria and Avilian. Honestly I'm not sold on Lewis at all he's probably barely a top 100 at this point. The two guys I want are Querecuto and Rodriguez. Lewis is a huge question mark, but I trade Soria & Avalin for him in a heartbeat. Doubt Seattle would do that though. I’d also do Soria straight up for Rodriguez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrathofhahn Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 hour ago, steveno89 said: For Soria? No way we are getting that much for him, even with Lewis' stock being down. Soria is a two month rental. Think more along the lines of a Seth Elledge and/or Wyatt Mills type prospect That is way less then what Britton went for. Soria isn't really a rental and he's been pitching much better. Plus in this scenario we'd also being giving up Avilian. No thanks if thats all we can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 hour ago, GreenSox said: I'd love to trade with Houston, but I look at their pen and wonder which pitcher Soria would really upgrade. Maybe Will Harris, but he's been a mainstay for them. Seattle's has been good too. Milwaukee's a possibility - I figured that bullpen as a house of cards a while back, despite its numbers. If that's the case, they wouldn't be scouting him in Seattle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrathofhahn Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 15 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Lewis is a huge question mark, but I trade Soria & Avalin for him in a heartbeat. Doubt Seattle would do that though. I’d also do Soria straight up for Rodriguez. Yeah I'm not sure Lewis has that kind of value anymore. Honestly I would have preferred Dillion Tate as a headliner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 hour ago, wrathofhahn said: Yeah I'm not sure Lewis has that kind of value anymore. Honestly I would have preferred Dillion Tate as a headliner. Lewis' value is certainly down, but I doubt Seattle ships him out for a rental reliever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrathofhahn Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Just now, steveno89 said: Lewis' value is certainly down, but I doubt Seattle ships him out for a rental reliever. Maybe. With his serious knee injury which may force him to 1B/DH and lack of production (he's only really ever hit at low A ball) I'm not all that high on him either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxSteve Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 You do what we did with the Yankees trade last year. You throw in Soria + + and get one above average prospect then a middle of the roader you would get with Soria alone. We have a minor league full of those guys( along with some exceptional) so I would rather get a potential high ceiling guy. A Shields+ Soria, etc package is the way to go IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) 59 minutes ago, SoxSteve said: You do what we did with the Yankees trade last year. You throw in Soria + + and get one above average prospect then a middle of the roader you would get with Soria alone. We have a minor league full of those guys( along with some exceptional) so I would rather get a potential high ceiling guy. A Shields+ Soria, etc package is the way to go IMO. Yeah, I think a Shields/Soria/Avilan or Cedeno package would be able to net a T100 prospect Honestly, The Sox best chance of getting a worthwile prospect is a package deal with a team in win now mode like the Mariners, that also only has 1 or 2 top 100 prospects. They'd probably be willing to part with one of those players if the deal meets most of the team needs. For petes sake, please eat Shields' contract if it means you get a better return. The big issue is their T100 guy(Lewis) is an OF and the Sox already have plenty of those. Edited July 25, 2018 by Jack Parkman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Lewis is a huge question mark, but I trade Soria & Avalin for him in a heartbeat. Doubt Seattle would do that though. I’d also do Soria straight up for Rodriguez. I want lewis. Nobody else in their farm even moves the needle. Sox can more than afford to take a chance on Lewis. Sox got OF prospects for days. If he doesn't pan out, meh. He's got an upside though that would make it an ideal acquisition imo. Also just heard on the radio out here that they might be looking at Shields, especially with Paxton and Felix battling injuries and ineffectiveness respectively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrathofhahn Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) Just now, chitownsportsfan said: I want lewis. Nobody else in their farm even moves the needle. Sox can more than afford to take a chance on Lewis. Sox got OF prospects for days. If he doesn't pan out, meh. He's got an upside though that would make it an ideal acquisition imo. Also just heard on the radio out here that they might be looking at Shields, especially with Paxton and Felix battling injuries and ineffectiveness respectively. They can have all three if they want Shields, Soria and Avilian if it nets us a good package. Querecuto and Rodriguez definitely move the needle for me. We could also take a chance on Carlson. Out with TJ but he'd easily be a top 100 guy if healthy. Edited July 25, 2018 by wrathofhahn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, wrathofhahn said: They can have all three if they want Shields, Soria and Avilian if it nets us a good package. The Mariners are in free fall. Dipoto is an a tough spot and has shown in the past he has zero qualms about gutting the farm to get who he wants. They don't have much of a farm left to sell but the Sox could really take advantage here. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, SoxSteve said: You do what we did with the Yankees trade last year. You throw in Soria + + and get one above average prospect then a middle of the roader you would get with Soria alone. We have a minor league full of those guys( along with some exceptional) so I would rather get a potential high ceiling guy. A Shields+ Soria, etc package is the way to go IMO. I think packaging players is fine and I the way to go, but we gave up three good players in that Yankees trade year including a cost-controlled high upside arm in Kahnle. Adding Shields to a Soria trade doesn’t move the needle enough IMo. I think our best chance of landing a pretty good prospect is adding someone like Sanchez or Leury or even Avi (if value can be had) to the mix. The Red Sox for example could still use bullpen & 2B help and a packagd built around Groome for Yolmer & Soria would be awfully attractive to me. The Phillies could use Avi & Soria and might be willing to give up Medina. Edited July 25, 2018 by Chicago White Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: I want lewis. Nobody else in their farm even moves the needle. Sox can more than afford to take a chance on Lewis. Sox got OF prospects for days. If he doesn't pan out, meh. He's got an upside though that would make it an ideal acquisition imo. Also just heard on the radio out here that they might be looking at Shields, especially with Paxton and Felix battling injuries and ineffectiveness respectively. Shields makes sense for them as an innings eater, but I can’t imagine he nets you much. If we could somehow get Rodriguez for him and he suddenly becomes the next Tatis that would set the world right again 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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