Sleepy Harold Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Lucas Sims is a nice get for the Reds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: Why did the braves want him? He doesn't really look like anything special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 The Braves traded the best outfielder in this trade, plus two pitchers, for the worst outfielder in this trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Just now, Jose Abreu said: The Braves traded the best outfielder in this trade, plus two pitchers, for the worst outfielder in this trade Good. It's not just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: The Braves traded the best outfielder in this trade, plus two pitchers, for the worst outfielder in this trade And one of those pitchers is a former 1st round pick who, despite lost his top prospect shine, has still been pretty solid. That's a Rick Hahn type move. I like the Sims get alot for Cincy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Wonder if the Barves were interested in Avi at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Who does he replace in the OF? Will he mostly be a bench bat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) Reds are in build-up mode. They think they can compete next year. Nice move for them although all 3 are risks. Edited July 31, 2018 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footlongcomiskeydog Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Jose Abreu said: The Braves traded the best outfielder in this trade, plus two pitchers, for the worst outfielder in this trade Wait wait wait. How can we already judge this trade? If it's too early to pass judgement on Moncada then it is far too early to judge this trade. Duvall has some serious pop in his bat. What if he hits a game winner homer against the Cubs in game five of the NLDS? Something. Does. Not. Compute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Duvall has an 82 wRC+. Tucker has a 101 wRC+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footlongcomiskeydog Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 8 minutes ago, Eminor3rd said: Duvall has an 82 wRC+. Tucker has a 101 wRC+. Duvall has been worth over 1 WAR this year. Tucker has been worth less than 0.3. Isn't cherry picking stats fun ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 2 hours ago, tlongo81@gmail.com said: Duvall has been worth over 1 WAR this year. Tucker has been worth less than 0.3. Isn't cherry picking stats fun ! Impressive that Duvall has triple the WAR with triple the playing time! Isn’t misusing counting stats fun?! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) Duvall is supposed to be a solid defender with big pop, and this year I've seen that he's made more contact but just been unlucky. Maybe the braves are buying into his luck changing with the move down there? Edited July 31, 2018 by Sleepy Harold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 7 hours ago, tlongo81@gmail.com said: Duvall has been worth over 1 WAR this year. Tucker has been worth less than 0.3. Isn't cherry picking stats fun ! WAR is a counting stat, and Duvall has more playing time. It's the reason I chose a rate stat to use. Good attempt at sarcasm, but you should probably learn more about what you're talking about first. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 27 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: Duvall is supposed to be a solid defender with big pop, and this year I've seen that he's made more contact but just been unlucky. Maybe the braves are buying into his luck changing with theove down there? It just seems like a steep price to pay for a marginal (if any) upgrade. I wonder if it was as much about a 40-man crunch as anything else, as both pitchers have been around a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 30 minutes ago, Eminor3rd said: It just seems like a steep price to pay for a marginal (if any) upgrade. I wonder if it was as much about a 40-man crunch as anything else, as both pitchers have been around a while. That could be it too, a good aspect to consider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Sounds like he'll platoon with Inciarte (Acuna would play CF against lefties). He's also pre-arb so he has some control too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raBBit Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Preston Tucker sucks. Adam Duvall is a nice player if used correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footlongcomiskeydog Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 5 hours ago, Eminor3rd said: WAR is a counting stat, and Duvall has more playing time. It's the reason I chose a rate stat to use. Good attempt at sarcasm, but you should probably learn more about what you're talking about first. I understand how WAR works. I didn't realize that Duvall had triple amount of at bats. My bad there. Alen Hansen wRC+ of 108 Yoan moncada WRC+ of 95 Who is the better player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Just now, tlongo81@gmail.com said: I understand how WAR works. I didn't realize that Duvall had triple amount of at bats. My bad there. Alen Hansen wRC+ of 108 Yoan moncada WRC+ of 95 Who is the better player? Well, one of those guys has 197 PAs, the other has 429... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirdog Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 8 minutes ago, tlongo81@gmail.com said: I understand how WAR works. I didn't realize that Duvall had triple amount of at bats. My bad there. Alen Hansen wRC+ of 108 Yoan moncada WRC+ of 95 Who is the better player? Moncada is the better player. Age 23 season, 97 (career 97) vs. Age 23 season for Hansen, 44 (career 80). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footlongcomiskeydog Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Jose Abreu said: Well, one of those guys has 197 PAs, the other has 429... Thank you for proving my point about using Wrc+ to compare Tucker and Duvall. Again, what stat are you guys cherry picking to show that Tucker is better than Duvall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footlongcomiskeydog Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 12 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Impressive that Duvall has triple the WAR with triple the playing time! Isn’t misusing counting stats fun?! Alen Hansen wRC+ of 108 Moncada wRC+ of 95 Isn't using stats like wRC+ in isolation fun??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, tlongo81@gmail.com said: Thank you for proving my point about using Wrc+ to compare Tucker and Duvall. Again, what stat are you guys cherry picking to show that Tucker is better than Duvall? Duvall is a career 96 wRC+ hitter at 29 years old. Not sure this is the hill you want to die on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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