Midseason 16-30 - the back half of the FutureSox T30

[southsider2k5]

3 minutes ago, bmags said:

I do think I'm leaning toward Hamilton and Burdi as the only bullpen arms I think I'd rank. I'm not sure how much I am to trust players like Johnson/Burr. But I hope I'm wrong because sox will be getting huge huge value out of their bullpen that they can spend elsewhere.

Both Burr and Johnson are putting up amazing numbers, but I think it terms of pure stuff I don't think I have seen anyone rank their stuff anywhere near to Hamilton and Burdi.  While optimistic, for me there is a clear separation there between the two sets of players.  For the Hamilton fan in me, I would love nothing more than to see Hamilton and Burr handing the ball to each other in the Sox pen for the next half decade.

[southsider2k5]

5 minutes ago, royoung said:

FutureSox will have an interview with tons of Bush information in the week or so! 

I can't wait to see this.

[Quin]

I didn't vote this time around, but had Bush in the 31-35 just missed tier with Delgado on my personal list. When the voting was taking place, there wasn't even much of a sample size.

[TaylorStSox]

1 hour ago, footlongcomiskeydog said:

The first two picks from the 2017 draft are leaving a lot to be desired.

Yeah, let's hold a freak injury against the organization. Totes. 

[NorthSideSox72]

55 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Both Burr and Johnson are putting up amazing numbers, but I think it terms of pure stuff I don't think I have seen anyone rank their stuff anywhere near to Hamilton and Burdi.  While optimistic, for me there is a clear separation there between the two sets of players.  For the Hamilton fan in me, I would love nothing more than to see Hamilton and Burr handing the ball to each other in the Sox pen for the next half decade.

I'd take Johnson's ceiling over Hamilton's, but Hamilton is more refined and much closer to ready at this point with less risk. Thus the higher ranking.

 

[Y2Jimmy0]

2 hours ago, oldsox said:

Same here.  The biggest reason for his omission is because he was drafted in the later rounds.  If he had been a 5th rounder, he would probably have made the list.  IMO.

This is 100% not the reason why. 

[Y2Jimmy0]

2 hours ago, bmags said:

I do think I'm leaning toward Hamilton and Burdi as the only bullpen arms I think I'd rank. I'm not sure how much I am to trust players like Johnson/Burr. But I hope I'm wrong because sox will be getting huge huge value out of their bullpen that they can spend elsewhere.

My rule is that relievers either need an outside chance at starting or they need to be high-leverage types. I included Burdi, Hamilton and Johnson in my top 30. 

[Y2Jimmy0]

2 hours ago, royoung said:

FutureSox will have an interview with tons of Bush information in the week or so! 

I have tons of info. I'm pairing it down and waiting on a few more details. Should be early next week. 

[Jose Abreu]

4 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

My rule is that relievers either need an outside chance at starting or they need to be high-leverage types. I included Burdi, Hamilton and Johnson in my top 30. 

Why not Ruiz? Is he more like a 6th/7th inning guy? 

[southsider2k5]

5 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

My rule is that relievers either need an outside chance at starting or they need to be high-leverage types. I included Burdi, Hamilton and Johnson in my top 30. 

I tend to agree with this, though my opinion here as changed in recent years as relievers have become more and more valuable to teams and on the open market.

[Y2Jimmy0]

1 minute ago, Jose Abreu said:

Why not Ruiz? Is he more like a 6th/7th inning guy? 

He could be a high leverage type. I personally just don't think he's top 30 in a top 3 system in the sport. I ranked back end starters over him because they are more valuable. I generally don't rank relievers very high. Burdi/Hamilton/Johnson are a different animal IMO 

[Dam8610]

5 hours ago, TaylorStSox said:

Yeah, let's hold a freak injury against the organization. Totes. 

Well clearly they need to develop a better method to determine when an early 20s player is going to have their achilles tendon randomly rupture. This is just poor due diligence on the part of the front office.

[Chicago White Sox]

My prediction of FutureSox’s top 15:

• 01) Jimenez, OF
• 02) Kopech, RHP
• 03) Robert, OF
• 04) Cease, RHP
• 05) Madrigal, 2B
• 06) Dunning, RHP
• 07) Collins, C
• 08) Hansen, RHP
• 09) Adolfo, OF
• 10) Basabe, OF
• 11) Rutherford, OF
• 12) Gonzalez, OF
• 13) Burger, 3B
• 14) Walker, OF
• 15) Burdi, RHP

[oldsox]

1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said:

My prediction of FutureSox’s top 15:

• 01) Jimenez, OF
• 02) Kopech, RHP
• 03) Robert, OF
• 04) Cease, RHP
• 05) Madrigal, 2B
• 06) Dunning, RHP
• 07) Collins, C
• 08) Hansen, RHP
• 09) Adolfo, OF
• 10) Basabe, OF
• 11) Rutherford, OF
• 12) Gonzalez, OF
• 13) Burger, 3B
• 14) Walker, OF
• 15) Burdi, RHP

5 of those guys are hurt.  Not criticizing, just commenting.

[Chicago White Sox]

14 minutes ago, oldsox said:

5 of those guys are hurt.  Not criticizing, just commenting.

Outside of Burger & Adolfo, only Dunning is currently hurt.  Robert & Burdi are back now.