SoxBlanco Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Bush with a double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted August 11, 2018 Author Share Posted August 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Jack Parkman said: Noice. I'm really high on Gonzalez. The Sox are just absolutely loaded with quality OF prospects. For the purpose of this exercise, I'm not counting Jimenez. Robert Rutherford Gonzalez Basabe Walker Adolfo Call. And that isn't even including the Sox Best OF prospect This will make trading for Arenado easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 1 minute ago, soxfan49 said: This will make trading for Arenado easier. Why trade for him when you give up nothing if you wait a year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted August 11, 2018 Author Share Posted August 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Why trade for him when you give up nothing if you wait a year? Because you fear if another team trades for him midseason that he never makes it to the open market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 26 minutes ago, fathom said: Cease didn't have good control tonight but still made AA look easy He was also getting squeezed, I thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 10 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Why trade for him when you give up nothing if you wait a year? Yeah I'd wait too. Arenado would cost a fortune in a trade and I'm not willing to pay that high cost on an assumption Arenado would be willing to sign an extension with the rebuilding White Sox. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 14-1 Barons. 6 HRs. 2 by Keon Barnum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Collins great overall game, including HR vs LHP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditka19861 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Collins with 2 HRs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Yeah, grand slam in the 9th, second granny of the inning. 18-1 Barons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BamaDoc Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 (edited) Burdi in in AZL 1 ip 2h 1er 1k Edited August 11, 2018 by BamaDoc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 11 hours ago, soxfan49 said: Because you fear if another team trades for him midseason that he never makes it to the open market. A bigger fear would be trading for him and watching him walk. I would much rather take chances in the offseason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 11 hours ago, soxfan49 said: Because you fear if another team trades for him midseason that he never makes it to the open market. When is the last time a major free agent signed with the team that traded for him ? There's a chance it happens with Machado and the Dodgers but I think Dodgers still had a shot at him as a free agent regardless. They just wanted him to try to win a World Series this year. The Sox are not in that position. This seems to be always brought up never happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted August 11, 2018 Author Share Posted August 11, 2018 19 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: When is the last time a major free agent signed with the team that traded for him ? There's a chance it happens with Machado and the Dodgers but I think Dodgers still had a shot at him as a free agent regardless. They just wanted him to try to win a World Series this year. The Sox are not in that position. This seems to be always brought up never happens. Perhaps Arenado is more open to staying with the team, unlike Machado and some guys of the past, who seem completely against it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 1 minute ago, soxfan49 said: Perhaps Arenado is more open to staying with the team, unlike Machado and some guys of the past, who seem completely against it. We don't know that though. The risk outweighs the reward. The white sox aren't a top FA destination typically. If Hahn trades big-time prospects for Arenado and then he leaves in FA, Hahn gets grilled like there is no tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted August 11, 2018 Author Share Posted August 11, 2018 Just now, Hot FiRe said: We don't know that though. The risk outweighs the reward. The white sox aren't a top FA destination typically. If Hahn trades big-time prospects for Arenado and then he leaves in FA, Hahn gets grilled like there is no tomorrow. At times, professional athletes are vocal about their intentions. Machado has made it clear he's not open to it. Maybe Arenado will say that he is depending on the destination. If it's the latter, I would imagine Hahn would inquire if Chicago is one of the destinations that he would consider. If not, obviously the trade shouldn't be made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Just now, soxfan49 said: At times, professional athletes are vocal about their intentions. Machado has made it clear he's not open to it. Maybe Arenado will say that he is depending on the destination. If it's the latter, I would imagine Hahn would inquire if Chicago is one of the destinations that he would consider. If not, obviously the trade shouldn't be made. Unless it is a sign and trade, we essentially give him the upper hand. The Sox commit to resigning him at whatever cost it takes. Like most players, he will sign for the most money. The Sox basically have to have the highest bid then. Not a fan of that strategy. What players has that worked with? Im sure there are a couple of examples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Arenado is 2 years older than Machado and will be the gem of the 2019 FA class (if he even makes it. He will be paid the same if not more than Machado IMO.Hahn is better off going all in on Machado and paying the man with an opt out after 3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 16 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: Swing reminds me of Daniel Palka for some reason. Maybe Collins is Palka with plate discipline. I'd take that from a catcher for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 5 hours ago, TheTruth05 said: Arenado is 2 years older than Machado and will be the gem of the 2019 FA class (if he even makes it. He will be paid the same if not more than Machado IMO.Hahn is better off going all in on Machado and paying the man with an opt out after 3 years. With the lack of progress from our first wave, if you give the guy an opt out after 3 years, that's 2019, 2020, and 2021. Feel like we're ready to compete in the first 2 of those years? I'm not even sure about year 3 right now, not until we see some progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Hansen pulled after 40 pitches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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