Jose Abreu Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Jerksticks said: For sure. Hey do you know when minor league control starts ticking for a guy like Nunez. He’s spent 4 years in the rookie leagues so does he only have 3 years left? Since all of his years in rookie leagues were in the U.S. (as opposed to Dominican leagues and whatnot) I believe he would actually need to be added to the 40 man this offseason to be protected from the Rule 5 draft. However there's no way any team would take a guy from rookie ball in that draft. Not sure when we'd need to worry about the minor league portion of the draft though, but I know it's not this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Stuff Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 No update on Cease? The level of concern from the crowd seems to be minimal. Thought for sure more panic would’ve set in by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Jose Abreu said: Since all of his years in rookie leagues were in the U.S. (as opposed to Dominican leagues and whatnot) I believe he would actually need to be added to the 40 man this offseason to be protected from the Rule 5 draft. However there's no way any team would take a guy from rookie ball in that draft. Not sure when we'd need to worry about the minor league portion of the draft though, but I know it's not this year There was a poster here who had kind of a spread sheet from a website that sights team option years and so on. Was very beneficial, I gotta see if I can find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Cease goes 1 innimg and nobody is talking about it? Was he hurt???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 13 minutes ago, reiks12 said: Cease goes 1 innimg and nobody is talking about it? Was he hurt???? I think there's no official word, but he threw 42 pitches in that one inning, and it was raining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footlongcomiskeydog Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 All young pitchers are ticking time bombs for the most part. There is a reason why the smart teams rebuild around stud position players and buy/trade for pitching later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 20 minutes ago, footlongcomiskeydog said: All young pitchers are ticking time bombs for the most part. There is a reason why the smart teams rebuild around stud position players and buy/trade for pitching later. You need to STFU & think before saying shit that isn’t true. Implying the Sox’s rebuild has been pitching focused or we lack high-end positional talent is quite frankly a bold faced lie. Moncada (BA #2 - 2016) Anderson (BA #45 - 2015) Jimenez (BA #3 / MP #3 / FG #3) Robert (BA #46 / MP #25 / FG #20) Madrigal (BA #30 / MP #32 / FG #23) Collins (FG #67) Rutherford (MP #88) Adolfo (FG #88 / KL top 50 HM) Basabe (FG #84) That’s nine guys who placed on a top 100 list. That doesn’t include our top three picks from the 2017 draft or our 2nd round pick from this year’s draft. All four of those guys have a chance to make one those lists in the future, with Gonzalez being a real possibility this offseason. There is a ton of positional talent in the organization and it’s an essential part of the rebuild no matter how you try to spin things. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 11 hours ago, Jerksticks said: For sure. Hey do you know when minor league control starts ticking for a guy like Nunez. He’s spent 4 years in the rookie leagues so does he only have 3 years left? If you are signed before age 19, team controls the player for 5 years. Or something like that. Nunez should be safely put on Kanny's roster next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 3 hours ago, footlongcomiskeydog said: All young pitchers are ticking time bombs for the most part. There is a reason why the smart teams rebuild around stud position players and buy/trade for pitching later. I agree. This shows the Sox are an smart organization. 11 of their top 15 are position players, while only 6 of top 15 for Padres and Braves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 38 minutes ago, thxfrthmmrs said: I agree. This shows the Sox are an smart organization. 11 of their top 15 are position players, while only 6 of top 15 for Padres and Braves. But Albies!!!!!!!!!!!1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footlongcomiskeydog Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 3 hours ago, thxfrthmmrs said: I agree. This shows the Sox are an smart organization. 11 of their top 15 are position players, while only 6 of top 15 for Padres and Braves. The Padres have been rebuilding for the last 8 plus years. i'm not sure that they are a great example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 44 minutes ago, footlongcomiskeydog said: The Padres have been rebuilding for the last 8 plus years. i'm not sure that they are a great example. It’s about whether Padres are a good org or not, it’s the fact that Sox are heavy if positional prospects but you fail to see it. Aside from the Braves, Yankees and Astros also are top heavy with pitching prospects, these are 3 of the best run orgs in the league. So your self-hating comments don’t fly here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footlongcomiskeydog Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, thxfrthmmrs said: It’s about whether Padres are a good org or not, it’s the fact that Sox are heavy if positional prospects but you fail to see it. Aside from the Braves, Yankees and Astros also are top heavy with pitching prospects, these are 3 of the best run orgs in the league. So your self-hating comments don’t fly here. The Braves got Acuna and Albies. Those two dudes making the Show look like Williamsport. The Yankees got Torres and Andujar both making hay. The Astros are the defending World Series Champions. Come again on how the White Sox are anywhere near these 3 franchises? Edited August 19, 2018 by footlongcomiskeydog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 1 hour ago, footlongcomiskeydog said: The Braves got Acuna and Albies. Those two dudes making the Show look like Williamsport. The Yankees got Torres and Andujar both making hay. The Astros are the defending World Series Champions. Come again on how the White Sox are anywhere near these 3 franchises? Acuna is a stud, I'm not gonna make any arguments there (Eloy may be better long-term though). But Albies and Torres have been awful lately, and Andujar has been the worst defensive player in baseball. It's not nearly as cut and dry as you're trying to make it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 10 hours ago, footlongcomiskeydog said: The Braves got Acuna and Albies. Those two dudes making the Show look like Williamsport. The Yankees got Torres and Andujar both making hay. The Astros are the defending World Series Champions. Come again on how the White Sox are anywhere near these 3 franchises? Do you even know what you are talking about most of the time? Sox has Eloy, Robert, Moncada, Anderson, Madrigal, Rutherford. The ceiling of this group is as high as most groups of young players in baseball. Your tiring argument is some of those prospects didn’t pan out, while likes of Albies and Torres are off to a good start. But in terms of sheer building around corner positional prospects, you can’t argue that the Sox haven’t been doing that, especially that the Sox gave up $60 mil and forfeited 2 yrs of intl signing for a 20 year old CF prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Oh and btw, the past 3 first round picks are position players, as are the past 2 second round picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, thxfrthmmrs said: Oh and btw, the past 3 first round picks are position players, as are the past 2 second round picks. We’ve had 10 picks in the first three rounds of the last three drafts and seven of them have been position players. Almost all our big LatAm signings have been positional players. If it weren’t for the Eaton trade, this false notion that our rebuild has been pitching based wouldn’t exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said: If it weren’t for the Eaton trade, this false notion that our rebuild has been pitching based wouldn’t exist. A trade that might have given us our cost-controlled #3 and 4 starter. No issues with that at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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