ChiSox59 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) As expected. Edited October 29, 2018 by ChiSox59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Shields will be back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Biggest no-brainers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) Sox also added Kopech back to 40 man, which now sits at 34. Only super easy fat left to trim is Tilson and Gomez. Guys that may be on chopping block but harder decisions: Leury, Avi, Delmonico, Cordell, Minaya, Clarkin and Covey. By my count the 34 does not include Gonzalez or Santiago, both FA. Edited October 29, 2018 by ChiSox59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, chetkincaid said: Shields will be back. I really hope not. He may be a great clubhouse guy, but let’s at least throw someone out there with some potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Just now, ChiSox59 said: Sox also added Kopech back to 40 man, which now sits at 34. Only super easy fat left to trim is Tilson. Guys that may be on chopping block but harder decisions: Leury, Avi, Delmonico, Cordell, Minaya, Clarkin and Covey. By my count the 34 does not include Gonzalez or Santiago, both FA. No one is putting Clarkin on their 40 man, so he should be an easy guy to outright. We’ll definitely have to get rid one of our outfielders at some point and Tilson is probably the most obvious candidate to your point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Kind of surprised by Jones. Hopefully that means they saw something in him at the end of the year to make them think he is healthy. If he can be our closer next year, his contract would make him really valuable as a trade piece, or even a piece of the pen moving forward through 21. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I'm not sure why he'd want to be back. The bullpen blew so many leads. He wasn't great last year but his record should've been better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I'm a bit surprised by Jones. Good for him though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Would not pay Jones. Would take $2M to retire and take my chances. If they think Jones will stay healthy then I question their judgment. He might give you two decent months. Any thoughts on the future career of Chris Sale who seems to be at a crossroads. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 $4.65 for Jones is nothing, picking up that option is a no-brainer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I truthfully would not give a shit if Adam Engel never played for the Sox again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said: I truthfully would not give a shit if Adam Engel never played for the Sox again. Same. Don't really mind him as a defensive sub I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 These moves make perfect sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 2 hours ago, pcq said: Would not pay Jones. Would take $2M to retire and take my chances. If they think Jones will stay healthy then I question their judgment. He might give you two decent months. Any thoughts on the future career of Chris Sale who seems to be at a crossroads. I think he is their #1 starter next year. I would guess there will be a plan developed as to how to strengthen his arm for the off-season and in-season for next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScootsMcGoots Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 18 hours ago, chetkincaid said: Shields will be back. I thought so too, but really, I think the Sox would rather erase as many memories and pieces from that dreadful 2013-2016 stretch as possible. Shields, while he may not be a bad choice to eat up innings, is also Hahn's worst deal in his career as Sox GM. I also think that they would be better served for the interest of the fans to go find someone else to take the ball every 5th day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 18 hours ago, pcq said: Would not pay Jones. Would take $2M to retire and take my chances. If they think Jones will stay healthy then I question their judgment. He might give you two decent months. Any thoughts on the future career of Chris Sale who seems to be at a crossroads. When he is out injured the Sox aren't paying his contract. Insurance is in most cases. So the cost isn't a factor as he is worth 4.65 million when healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I believe insurance normally has a lot of contingencies beyond our assumptions. I doubt you just put in a claim when a guy goes on the DL. You might have some specifics being involved in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 (edited) RE: Shields Hated every second this guy was on the team. Didn’t like him as a player before he got here, didn’t like that we were pursuing him, didn’t like the trade to get him, and then he just blew every start he made while we were in contention. I know he was trying, but I don’t care that he managed to turn back into a 4.60 ERA back end starter when it didn’t matter. RE: Jones As disappointing as his health has been, there’s no point in bailing on the gamble they already made on his extension. It isn’t unlikely at all that he (or any reliever) can put together 40 healthy innings over a few months and make the whole thing worth it as trade bait Edited October 30, 2018 by Eminor3rd There, fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 On 10/30/2018 at 8:34 AM, Eminor3rd said: RE: Shields Hated every second this guy was on the team. Didn’t like him as a player before he got here, didn’t like that we were pursuing him, didn’t like the trade to get him, and then he just blew every start he made while we were in contention. I know he was trying, but I don’t care that he managed to turn back into a 4.60 ERA back end starter when it didn’t matter. RE: Jones As disappointing as his health has been, there’s no point in bailing on the gamble they already made on his extension. It isn’t unlikely at all that he (or any reliever) can put together 40 healthy innings over a few months and make the whole thing worth it as trade bait GMs see this as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 1 hour ago, kitekrazy said: GMs see this as well. Right, but GMs that acquire relievers are generally acquiring them for the next two to three months. Anything after that is gravy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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