ron883 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 I've been slightly souring on Harper lately. The prospect of paying that much to a lousy fielder/potential 1st baseman frightens me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 9 minutes ago, Hot FiRe said: I've been slightly souring on Harper lately. The prospect of paying that much to a lousy fielder/potential 1st baseman frightens me. His defense hasn't had any effect on my thinking. You aren't paying for his defense. You are paying for the bat. You are paying for the power and the on base skills. You are paying for a change in philosophy. You are paying for a splash. You are paying for dingers. You are paying for the marketing. And to me, that is fine. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 10 minutes ago, Hot FiRe said: I've been slightly souring on Harper lately. The prospect of paying that much to a lousy fielder/potential 1st baseman frightens me. His defense was horrible last year by advanced metrics, but prior to that he’s been fine for the most part. So the question is that a sign of things to come or just a blip on the radar. Personally, I lean toward the latter and believe he would be fine in a corner spot playing half his games at the Rate. 1B would be more of a fallback option years down the road IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 24 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: I know others have disagreed when I mention Harper playing 1st base because of his poor OF play and the future OF's we have in our system . I recently found this https://www.mlb.com/news/bryce-harper-could-play-first-base/c-300343118 Looks like a ploy to gain more interest from other teams (Yankees aren't exactly set at 1B like they are the OF, for example). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 11 minutes ago, turnin' two said: His defense hasn't had any effect on my thinking. You aren't paying for his defense. You are paying for the bat. You are paying for the power and the on base skills. You are paying for a change in philosophy. You are paying for a splash. You are paying for dingers. You are paying for the marketing. And to me, that is fine. This is exactly what I've said all along. Give me that 1.000 OPS again. If playing 1st base helps that I'll take the LH bat at GRT any time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 8 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said: Looks like a ploy to gain more interest from other teams (Yankees aren't exactly set at 1B like they are the OF, for example). I think it's more of an I'm not just an OF , I'm a team player kinda thing . Yes I'm sure it's mostly aimed at the Yanks because they have always preferred a LH 1st baseman because right field is a HR hitters pasadise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 3 hours ago, turnin' two said: His defense hasn't had any effect on my thinking. You aren't paying for his defense. You are paying for the bat. You are paying for the power and the on base skills. You are paying for a change in philosophy. You are paying for a splash. You are paying for dingers. You are paying for the marketing. And to me, that is fine. The epitome of “godsend” for this organization at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokona Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Move Anderson to C? No let's move Harper back to Catcher. Fool proof plan folks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, Nokona said: Move Anderson to C? No let's move Harper back to Catcher. Fool proof plan folks Funny. But “Anderson to Catcher” should replace “Soxtalk.com” on the banner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockin Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 3 hours ago, Sockin said: It's a safe assumption that the White Sox are not going to be seriously thought of as a contender unless they shock everyone with a big signing. At best, they are a team that can drive the price up (at best considering most analysts that I have heard don't believe Reinsdorf would put the money needed to land one of these guys). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, spiderman said: It's a safe assumption that the White Sox are not going to be seriously thought of as a contender unless they shock everyone with a big signing. At best, they are a team that can drive the price up (at best considering most analysts that I have heard don't believe Reinsdorf would put the money needed to land one of these guys). I think even the posters who mentioned signing both don’t really believe they will sign one until it actually happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 6 hours ago, Dick Allen said: I think even the posters who mentioned signing both don’t really believe they will sign one until it actually happens. That’s how I’ve been this entire time. I hope they’re very aggressive but I don’t see either guy really having a desire to come here. If Hahn bags his elk, he’s one helluva big game hunter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 On 11/21/2018 at 9:12 AM, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: This is exactly what I've said all along. Give me that 1.000 OPS again. If playing 1st base helps that I'll take the LH bat at GRT any time. Harper exactly 900 career ops . First season to reach 100 rbi had 99 before. How old-timerish. Wondering if lob is still relevant. Some say lob and rbi are random events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 16 minutes ago, pcq said: Harper exactly 900 career ops . First season to reach 100 rbi had 99 before. How old-timerish. Wondering if lob is still relevant. Some say lob and rbi are random events. There is no mental side of the game apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 3 hours ago, Jerksticks said: There is no mental side of the game apparently Just trying to get with the program. I struggle to find a consensus of what input matters and to what extent but I surmise that each team has its own approach. Theo of course is the Almighty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polar Bear Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 So, any new news or tidbits on the Haper/Machado watch 2018 version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 There is less than 10% of a chance they get one of them, 0.01% they get both:). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 14 hours ago, dominik-keul@gmx.de said: There is less than 10% of a chance they get one of them, 0.01% they get both:). 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Harper on Gameday soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 18 hours ago, Moncada said: So, any new news or tidbits on the Haper/Machado watch 2018 version? After some initial excitement, everything since has re aligned to the prior presumption that the Phillies and Yankees will sign them in some order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Will it not come down to the highest bidder? I’m sure there’s a number that brings Harper here, but how outrageous are Reinsdorf/Hahn willing to get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polar Bear Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Don't you wish baseball would get away from the chase of the money. Why can't a player go to a team bc he likes the city, the players, the coaches, and wants to win for that team. Take less money but enjoy your career. It doesn't have to always be about who will pay the most money, it shouldn't be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 26 minutes ago, Moncada said: Don't you wish baseball would get away from the chase of the money. Why can't a player go to a team bc he likes the city, the players, the coaches, and wants to win for that team. Take less money but enjoy your career. It doesn't have to always be about who will pay the most money, it shouldn't be. For the same reasons teams manipulate service time and argue about every penny in arbitration. Neither teams nor players are loyal to each other, it is a business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, NCsoxfan said: Will it not come down to the highest bidder? I’m sure there’s a number that brings Harper here, but how outrageous are Reinsdorf/Hahn willing to get? Yes, odds are money will be the biggest driver for both of them. While I do think Philly is the biggest threat to sign one of these guys, there have been rumors that their front office is a bit uncomfortable spending what it would take to land a whale. Obviously the owner supersedes all and we know he’s prepared to spend stupidly, but maybe we get lucky and the front office holds their ground at a certain point. I do truly believe Jerry & Hahn are prepared to offer record breaking contracts for both of these guys, just not sure how far above that they’re prepared to go if a bidding war happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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