ptatc Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 4 hours ago, pettie4sox said: If JB does that, it will help the state tremendously! If you have the other states rolling into Illinois to smoke dope, that's good for the economy. It's on the ballot in Michigan and Missouri... Illinois needs to be the first. Good for economy, bad for healthcare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 4 hours ago, LittleHurt05 said: No matter what the election results are tonight, we are all winners tomorrow, because we no longer have to watch those disgusting, shaming, polarizing political ads on TV anymore. Everyone has just turned to shame tactics to try and win votes. oh yeah. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 55 minutes ago, Soxbadger said: Its over, Republicans have won Indiana. I’m confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Just now, The Beast said: I’m confused. Its a joke. Indianas deep red are the first to report so the whole map is red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Soxbadger said: Its a joke. Indianas deep red are the first to report so the whole map is red. Oh, gotcha. Yeah, Braun is already in the lead but I have no idea what precincts are reporting and 10% of precincts are reporting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raBBit Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 39 minutes ago, ptatc said: Good for economy, bad for healthcare. How so? (Not sure if serious) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Just now, raBBit said: How so? (Not sure if serious) Ptatc has talked a lot about marijuana and heart disease. But generally smoking likely bad for health compared to not smoking. Different argunent would be if smoking replaced alcohol and opiates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raBBit Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, Soxbadger said: Ptatc has talked a lot about marijuana and heart disease. But generally smoking likely bad for health compared to not smoking. Different argunent would be if smoking replaced alcohol and opiates. So the implication would be that marijuana users are increasing their risk to heart disease? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Really strange results so far...nobody expected Wexton (D) to be up 17% on Comstock in VA, but Donnelly being down almost 16% against Braun (even if it's only 25% reporting) in Indiana is a bit of a shocker as well. By the end of the evening, a 53-47 split in the Senate wouldn't be much of a shock. Winning ND is long gone. TN, Texas seem like long shots at best. Missouri could go either way, just like NV and AZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, raBBit said: So the implication would be that marijuana users are increasing their risk to heart disease? I think he specifically referenced heart attack, but im going entirely off of memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Also, does anyone want to venture a guess that the Georgia and/or Florida governor's races aren't resolved tonight? Florida with Gillum leading slightly (1.8%) with 35.4% in. Roughly 40% of the electorate (national) is describing themselves as independent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raBBit Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 14 minutes ago, Soxbadger said: I think he specifically referenced heart attack, but im going entirely off of memory. Interesting. I have never heard anything of the like. Would be interested in hearing @ptatc expound on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Was going to say beato was my upset pick, but now wont look as cool. Hell still probably lose but id love to see cruz sweat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Just when you think Illinois has hit rock bottom, JB happens. Amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 41 minutes ago, Soxbadger said: I think he specifically referenced heart attack, but im going entirely off of memory. What about edibles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) VA 2 and 7 are the next dominoes to fall. Otoh, the GOP has kept Barr's seat and another key VA race, so it's not going to be a blue wave. Net is +2 so far. Things looking pretty grim for Donnelly and Abrams, Nelson and Gillum could go either way in FLA. Also a bit surprised by the margins in the TN Senate race, Bredesen was expected to be within at least 5%. An O'Rourke win in Texas (still highly unlikely) and he becomes the temporary favorite for the Dems in 2020. Edited November 7, 2018 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) Seems like they're heading for 223-227 in the House (218 for majority). Most optimistically, they were initially looking at 235-240. Trump will be able to tout his Senate holds, even though more and more of the governorship's and state legislatures are trending in the Dem column. With Donnelly losing to Braun, all Senate hopes are already extinguished before they even got started. And, if Nelson and Gillum both lose in FL, that's a HUGE break for Trump's 2020 chances. He absolutely has to win FL/OH...because WI/PA/MI/IA are going to be much harder gets the second time around. Another fascinating subplot....Kansas, Maine, South Dakota are all trending Dem (so far) for governor, any of those three going that direction would be pretty darned surprising. Wisconsin and Ohio continue to be the two races (after FL and GA) that everyone's closely monitoring. Edited November 7, 2018 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, raBBit said: So the implication would be that marijuana users are increasing their risk to heart disease? Direct quote from PTATC: "So if you smoke pot you will have a heart attack." Edited November 7, 2018 by Leonard Zelig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 That would be the thread I remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Kobach lost in Kansas...a decent-sized surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted November 7, 2018 Author Share Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, LittleHurt05 said: Just when you think Illinois has hit rock bottom, JB happens. Amazing. Well maybe Rauner shouldn't have sucked as a governor? EDIT: Rated R to rated PG Edited November 7, 2018 by pettie4sox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) Pettie, don't get the thread closed, lol... In the battlefield (vulnerable GOP) House races, the Dems are up 12-9 so far, with PA-14 and potentially NJ-5 the only ones that look like they could be going the other direction. Net House pickup is 12 seats, so far. PA has been a wipe-out for the GOP, compared to the last few elections...GOP can take solace in FL, Georgia, Indiana, ND. Losing PA is also going to make winning it in 2020 for Trump a huge hill to climb (twice). Trump will still be able to declare victory...especially if Gillum and Abrams both lose their races. It means we'll see more of the same for the next two years (immigration/identity-based politics). Knocking off Scott Walker and Kobach is a SMALL consolation for Dems. The bloom is already off the Walker rose, after 2016. Cruz just knocked off O'Rourke. Beto's still got a puncher's chance in 2020 if he can figure out how to tack towards the middle and off his extremely progressive views (which never had a chance in a statewide Texas race, but would play much better in a Dem primary assuming he's not hemmed in by Sanders/Warren/K.Harris). Feel that Sanders won't run again, but we'll just have to wait and see. Edited November 7, 2018 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 President O'Rourke will have to do, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Things are looking up for Reddy in Iowa. It would be a shock if King lost (losing to Scholten in the early going), but the other three seats and governor could all go back to the Dems by the end of the night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 hour ago, caulfield12 said: VA 2 and 7 are the next dominoes to fall. Otoh, the GOP has kept Barr's seat and another key VA race, so it's not going to be a blue wave. Net is +2 so far. Things looking pretty grim for Donnelly and Abrams, Nelson and Gillum could go either way in FLA. Also a bit surprised by the margins in the TN Senate race, Bredesen was expected to be within at least 5%. An O'Rourke win in Texas (still highly unlikely) and he becomes the temporary favorite for the Dems in 2020. I’m not surprised that the Senate went towards the GOP after Kavanaugh’s nomination. Casten looks to be unseating Roskam. Suburban voters seem to be rejecting Trump in the Midwest. A blue wave in the house but interesting gubernatorial outcomes. At least I feel like I have more representation even if Rauner lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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