fathom Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Scoots said: Not sure if this has been said yet...but Harper played outfield next to Adam Eaton for a considerable amount of time...I'm sure Adam has told him his feelings about the Sox organization, which I don't really think Eaton had a very positive experience here. I wonder if that might play into Harper's decision. Harper is way too old for Eaton to talk to 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Chisoxfn said: I'm going to make this clear. The only way Harper is coming to the Sox is if it is part of a bold strategy shift by the White Sox (and offering Bryce $350M+ is a starting point) where they have set out a goal to be a premier professional sports franchise. Beyond landing Bryce, I think it takes a significant and bold statement from ownership regarding how they are going to run the franchise from a financial perspective, meaning they will spare no expense and are committed to running a sizeable payroll for the forseeable future (i.e., $175M+). Bryce could absolutely be the catalyst for this change, but this could be that "momentum that matters" as an organization and it could be the opportunity to catapult the franchise into being something more than just the secondary franchise in Chicago (and in baseball in general). Note: I am not implying they will pass the Cubs in popularity, however, they could take bold action and massively shift the dynamics and be one of the best professional sports franchises. It could be just more that the Sox will have such a low payroll that they can afford the huge contract for the first time in history. The rebuilding players coming up will be cost controlled for most of the 10 year contract. The overall payroll may still be the same just a bunch of cost controlled guys and one massive contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Chisoxfn said: I'm going to make this clear. The only way Harper is coming to the Sox is if it is part of a bold strategy shift by the White Sox (and offering Bryce $350M+ is a starting point) where they have set out a goal to be a premier professional sports franchise. Beyond landing Bryce, I think it takes a significant and bold statement from ownership regarding how they are going to run the franchise from a financial perspective, meaning they will spare no expense and are committed to running a sizeable payroll for the forseeable future (i.e., $175M+). Bryce could absolutely be the catalyst for this change, but this could be that "momentum that matters" as an organization and it could be the opportunity to catapult the franchise into being something more than just the secondary franchise in Chicago (and in baseball in general). Note: I am not implying they will pass the Cubs in popularity, however, they could take bold action and massively shift the dynamics and be one of the best professional sports franchises. Interesting thought, but I just do not see it happening. I genuinely hope that the fanbase is prepared for the possibility that this does not end up being a splashy offseason for the Sox. Could we go all in? Sure, but I still think continuing the rebuild and signing veteran bridge type players is more likely. The money is there to spend, but this team still has holes all over the place that cannot be addressed in one offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, fathom said: Harper is way too old for Eaton to talk to Too old to be a leader as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Bigger issue than Eaton would be that Bryce was very close with LaRoche and supported him during the saga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southwest Sider Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Just now, fathom said: Bigger issue than Eaton would be that Bryce was very close with LaRoche and supported him during the saga Now that is something I forgot about. At least it seems he will still be giving the Sox the time of day to discuss a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, fathom said: Bigger issue than Eaton would be that Bryce was very close with LaRoche and supported him during the saga If he is here and listening, it means that doesn't really matter to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 hour ago, SoxAce said: Hey a blast from the past! Welcome back @Capn12 Thanks man. I sneak back on from time to time, but the 2018 season was almost unbearable to watch for me. I'm hoping we spend some cash this offseason, and jumpstart the rebuild! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 40 minutes ago, Scoots said: Not sure if this has been said yet...but Harper played outfield next to Adam Eaton for a considerable amount of time...I'm sure Adam has told him his feelings about the Sox organization, which I don't really think Eaton had a very positive experience here. I wonder if that might play into Harper's decision. He’s also probably aware that Adam Eaton is batshit crazy and wanted a 12 year old boy to be their captain. I have zero concerns that Eaton could have an impact on us signjng Harper. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Everytime I have to remember that situation I am shocked at how stupid it was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Just now, bmags said: Everytime I have to remember that situation I am shocked at how stupid it was. agreed, can 2016 just be erased from the history of baseball? Sounds like a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 After reading Boras comments and from what I see, Harper wants to be a star. He wants that spotlight bad and wants to be the common era babe ruth. I think Philly has a huge advantage over us in this regard and they also have a further along rebuild. I wonder how we will sell him on being that type of star here. Yeah it is Chicago, but we do not have that electric environment or feel that the Cubs have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Just play him this video, say nothing else, and hand him a pen: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 minute ago, SonofaRoache said: After reading Boras comments and from what I see, Harper wants to be a star. He wants that spotlight bad and wants to be the common era babe ruth. I think Philly has a huge advantage over us in this regard and they also have a further along rebuild. I wonder how we will sell him on being that type of star here. Yeah it is Chicago, but we do not have that electric environment or feel that the Cubs have. Signing Harper would go a long way to get that electric environment. Harper alone would increase interest. A lot of other pieces are needed around him to create that team that competes right away. But he would own Chicago, and the Sox would instantly be much more of a factor in the city. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said: After reading Boras comments and from what I see, Harper wants to be a star. He wants that spotlight bad and wants to be the common era babe ruth. I think Philly has a huge advantage over us in this regard and they also have a further along rebuild. I wonder how we will sell him on being that type of star here. Yeah it is Chicago, but we do not have that electric environment or feel that the Cubs have. That’s always been a big issue. Hard to imagine Boras letting him sign with a team with worst tv ratings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, hogan873 said: Signing Harper would go a long way to get that electric environment. Harper alone would increase interest. A lot of other pieces are needed around him to create that team that competes right away. But he would own Chicago, and the Sox would instantly be much more of a factor in the city. From a marketing standpoint, signing Bryce Harper does put you back on the map so to speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Just now, steveno89 said: From a marketing standpoint, signing Bryce Harper does put you back on the map so to speak. Immediately it puts fans in seats and, more importantly, eyes on the television. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, fathom said: That’s always been a big issue. Hard to imagine Boras letting him sign with a team with worst tv ratings Why would Boras care? If the Sox offered Harper and he accepted an extra $30m over the next best offer, I don't think he would. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 14 minutes ago, hogan873 said: Signing Harper would go a long way to get that electric environment. Harper alone would increase interest. A lot of other pieces are needed around him to create that team that competes right away. But he would own Chicago, and the Sox would instantly be much more of a factor in the city. I agree completely. The question is does Harper want to risk his presence will do this and things will turn out fine over what Philly and SF already has? It would be interesting to see how Kenny and Hahn play this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 It’s interesting that 20 Phillies have followed Harper on instagram and he followed them all back. 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 9 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said: Why would Boras care? If the Sox offered Harper and he accepted an extra $30m over the next best offer, I don't think he would. I dont think extra money will play the big role we all think. Mainly because he will want an early opt out anyway to renegotiate the back end money. Front loading his contract would put us over the top imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said: I dont think extra money will play the big role we all think. Mainly because he will want an early opt out anyway to renegotiate the back end money. Front loading his contract would put us over the top imo. The Phillies can do that also though. This is reminding me of A-Rod part two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, hi8is said: It’s interesting that 20 Phillies have followed Harper on instagram and he followed them all back. 😆 Not sure where you're getting this from. As far as I can tell, the only Phillies player Harper is following on Instagram is Rhys Hoskins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 I flat out don’t understand the way people characterize Philly. It’s a crappy mid-sized east coast city...guys, we live in Chicago! The Phillies aren’t a big market team. Established franchise with a good fan base? Yeah. But philly isn’t glamorous 😂. It’s a poor-man’s Boston. Lived in Manhattan until earlier this year. Trust me nobody thinks of Philly as a big-time market lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, username said: I flat out don’t understand the way people characterize Philly. It’s a crappy mid-sized east coast city...guys, we live in Chicago! The Phillies aren’t a big market team. Established franchise with a good fan base? Yeah. But philly isn’t glamorous 😂. It’s a poor-man’s Boston. Lived in Manhattan until earlier this year. Trust me nobody thinks of Philly as a big-time market lol. Philly has a top 5 market. Our Sox are middle of the pack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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