southsider2k5 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Ugly. It'll be interesting to know how much of this is true and how much of this is disgruntled fired former employee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: Ugly. It'll be interesting to know how much of this is true and how much of this is disgruntled fired former employee. I have never heard of this woman until today, but you have to wonder what exactly would be in it for her to lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Just now, Dick Allen said: I have never heard of this woman until today, but you have to wonder what exactly would be in it for her to lie. Well, she just got fired. People say things to get noticed in today's wonderful age of social media and outrage culture. *IF* (and I'm not accusing her as such) she was just trying to blast her former bosses, calling them a racist would be a very good way to try and burry them with the way society is. Unfortunately, I rarely believe anything until more information comes out about it from multiple sources. It'll be interesting to see what ends up happening and if more people open their mouths about this situation from inside the organization. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: Well, she just got fired. People say things to get noticed in today's wonderful age of social media and outrage culture. *IF* (and I'm not accusing her as such) she was just trying to blast her former bosses, calling them a racist would be a very good way to try and burry them with the way society is. Unfortunately, I rarely believe anything until more information comes out about it from multiple sources. It'll be interesting to see what ends up happening and if more people open their mouths about this situation from inside the organization. It is pretty much career suicide to do what she did if it isn’t true. Probably is career suicide if it is true, but she is a doctor with a decent work history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Just now, Dick Allen said: It is pretty much career suicide to do what she did if it isn’t true. Probably is career suicide if it is true, but she is a doctor with a decent work history. Yea, I would agree. I'm sure the MLB/MLBPA will do their due diligence to look into this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 12 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: I have never heard of this woman until today, but you have to wonder what exactly would be in it for her to lie. I understand that people and organizations are innocent I’ll proven guilty but we need to believe alleged victims when they come forward. Is that a tough balancing act? Absolutely but we need to be fair. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 37 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: I have never heard of this woman until today, but you have to wonder what exactly would be in it for her to lie. Liars don't need an excuse to lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenericUserName Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 She says doctors and trainers of color were fired at higher rates. I feel like that should be pretty easy to look into and could really give a basis of whether to believe her or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 1 hour ago, oldsox said: Liars don't need an excuse to lie. ^Why people are scared to come forward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 https://www.seattlepi.com/sports/article/Mariners-deny-fired-exec-s-claims-of-racism-13386026.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Fired employee is disgruntled? No friggin' way. Regardless of whether she is telling the truth or not, waiting until she loses her job is going to be seen with a ton of skepticism as well as some who think shes awfully cowardly to see such injustices and not do a damn thing about it until she has nothing to lose. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrathofhahn Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 6 hours ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: Fired employee is disgruntled? No friggin' way. Regardless of whether she is telling the truth or not, waiting until she loses her job is going to be seen with a ton of skepticism as well as some who think shes awfully cowardly to see such injustices and not do a damn thing about it until she has nothing to lose. Her entire IG post read like it was written by a deranged lunatic. I have no idea whether Dipioto or Gervais is actually racist. His history would suggest otherwise one of the first things he did when he became GM of the Mariners was invest heavily in the Latin market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raBBit Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 And to be clear, this woman isn't a victim. She is stating there are victims of racist because of Jerry DiPoto and others. She also stated that a DiPoto-led team will never make the playoffs because he is racist (nevermind 2014). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 It actually looks like they fired her after she reported these types of incidents. https://deadspin.com/ex-mariners-employee-lorena-martin-says-mariners-bosses-1830406290 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I wonder who hired her.if what she is saying is accurate , it doesn’t appear Dipoto was on board with her from the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Mariners FO has had a history of problems with workplace sexual harassment, as documented here. So this wouldn't be the first time they'd be showing some cultural problems. Someone willing to commit career Hari Kari like this, I think you need to give some benefit of the doubt - at least to a point where it should be investigated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 14 minutes ago, NorthSideSox72 said: Mariners FO has had a history of problems with workplace sexual harassment, as documented here. So this wouldn't be the first time they'd be showing some cultural problems. Someone willing to commit career Hari Kari like this, I think you need to give some benefit of the doubt - at least to a point where it should be investigated. There's a joke here about Dipito responding to these allegations with "I Like Beer!" that I'm not sure I can make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I do think there is a lot of racism and sexism in baseball. This is really not a good situation and the worst is that this might cause other front offices to avoid hiring women or minorities to avoid scandals if they fire someone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 At least we aren't mariners fans. Yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raBBit Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 2 hours ago, dominik-keul@gmx.de said: I do think there is a lot of racism and sexism in baseball. This is really not a good situation and the worst is that this might cause other front offices to avoid hiring women or minorities to avoid scandals if they fire someone. or it might cause the MLB to institute measures for preferential hiring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, raBBit said: or it might cause the MLB to institute measures for preferential hiring Thread derailed. (And MLB already has these policies for managerial and GM openings...not preferential hiring, but at least to offer the opportunity to interview for qualified applicants.) Maybe they'll hire only Asians who were discriminated against by Harvard because their SAT score profile was TOO GOOD compared to white students, lol. (Like that will ever happen.) In fact, talking about exploiting a niche market, the White Sox should simply hire all the Chinese and Indian quants who get paid 50% less in Silicon Valley and bring them each to Chicago to create a computer database/algorithm to rival the Astros. Boom. Problem solved. Edited November 14, 2018 by caulfield12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 👆yiiiikes. “Outrage culture” is the best term I’ve heard to describe what’s been going on lately 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raBBit Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 14 hours ago, Jerksticks said: 👆yiiiikes. “Outrage culture” is the best term I’ve heard to describe what’s been going on lately I like how he puts "thread derailed" before he posts as if it excuses his post's lack of relevance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Deliberately injecting an (at best) controversial political opinion into this thread was supposed to accomplish what exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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