Chicago White Sox Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 You do NOT move Jose until the Harper & Machado situations have been addressed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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fathom Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: You do NOT move Jose until the Harper & Machado situations have been addressed. Just throwing this out there as I agree with you. If they trade him and go big, they put Palka at first, Cruz DH and sign Manny. Cruz should be cheaper than Abreu and you get some prospects back. I don’t necessarily like this path though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: You do NOT move Jose until the Harper & Machado situations have been addressed. 100% agreed. If they get one, I'm not sure they can move him though. Edited December 10, 2018 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, aeichhor said: C. Perez is someone they’ve dangled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Just now, fathom said: Just throwing this out there as I agree with you. If they trade him and go big, they put Palka at first, Cruz DH and sign Manny. Cruz should be cheaper than Abreu and you get some prospects back. I don’t necessarily like this path though. I’m fine with that path as long as Harper or Machado bless it. Can’t risk trading away and losing out on one of these guys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Just now, Chicago White Sox said: I’m fine with that path as long as Harper or Machado bless it. Can’t risk trading away and losing out on one of these guys. Don’t think they would, as god help this fan base meltdown if they trade Abreu for prospects and then don’t sign any significant free agents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 1 minute ago, fathom said: Don’t think they would, as god help this fan base meltdown if they trade Abreu for prospects and then don’t sign any significant free agents. Shrug. If they miss out on Harper and Machado they absolutely should dangle Abreu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, DirtySox said: Shrug. If they miss out on Harper and Machado they absolutely should dangle Abreu. I don’t disagree, but it would seem a big shift to go whale hunting to putting an even worse roster on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, DirtySox said: Shrug. If they miss out on Harper and Machado they absolutely should dangle Abreu. But I think they key is it should be in that order. Trading Abreu first & potentially risking our well-being with the whales would be a big mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) I don't see what difference it makes. He's a 1 year player. Trade him if value is offered. Sox are still in that mode, and will be (or should be) for the next year. Sox aren't going to be any good next year, regardless of Harper/Machado. Edited December 10, 2018 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, GreenSox said: I don't see what difference it makes. He's a 1 year player. Trade him if value is offered. Sox are still in that mode, and will be (or should be) for the next year. Sox aren't going to be any good next year, regardless of Harper/Machado. What difference it makes is it might piss off Harper or Machado. You don’t risk that under any circumstance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 21 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: You do NOT move Jose until the Harper & Machado situations have been addressed. This 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: What difference it makes is it might piss off Harper or Machado. You don’t risk that under any circumstance. Don’t be such a pessimist! In all seriousness, any move with Abreu would be made knowing if they’re going to get one of those guys. They’re not going to risk losing them because they wanted to to trade Abreu for non-top 100 prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: What difference it makes is it might piss off Harper or Machado. You don’t risk that under any circumstance. But what if they have a deal lined up to get Yonder Alonso? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: What difference it makes is it might piss off Harper or Machado. You don’t risk that under any circumstance. The Sox should be open and up front with them about their plans while recruiting them. And the plan is that they have about 10 grade A prospects who will be matriculating in the next year or 2, and another 10 grade Bs and with that they will forge a winner hopefully starting in 2020. And if they trade Abreu, they will explain to them why they did it. These guys aren't signing here to win next year. Or put another way, if winning next year is a priority for them, they aren't signing with the White Sox. Edited December 10, 2018 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, GreenSox said: The Sox should be open and up front with them about their plans while recruiting them. And the plan is that they have about 10 grade A prospects who will be matriculating in the next year or 2, and another 10 grade Bs and with that they will forge a winner hopefully starting in 2020. And if they trade Abreu, they will explain to them why they did it. These guys aren't signing here to win next year. Or put another way, if winning next year is a priority for them, they aren't signing with the White Sox. Very true. Harper or Machado would sign with the White Sox because they think the Sox have one of the best chances to win multiple championships over the entirety of their 10 year contract. Edited December 10, 2018 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 2 hours ago, aeichhor said: it they're offering Bukauskas and Seth Beer I'm tripping all over myself to say YESSSSS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrathofhahn Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 8 hours ago, GreenSox said: I don't see what difference it makes. He's a 1 year player. Trade him if value is offered. Sox are still in that mode, and will be (or should be) for the next year. Sox aren't going to be any good next year, regardless of Harper/Machado. This. Certain fans here are completely delusional. This team lost 100 games WITH Abreu last year we have holes everywhere on the roster. Next year we should have a better idea where the holes are and what we have with most of the prospects. The more capital we can acquire between now and next year the better position we will be when we are ready to compete. I hope these Abreu rumors are true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrathofhahn Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 8 hours ago, fathom said: C. Perez is someone they’ve dangled. Alvarez would be an awesome return. He's the guy that I'd want in any deal. The Astros already have Tucker up and their OF situation crowded so they might be willing to move him he is going to be a star when he arrives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Wanne said: it they're offering Bukauskas and Seth Beer I'm tripping all over myself to say YESSSSS. I'll drive Jose to the airport if this is the offer the Sox get. Bye bye Jose. Edited December 10, 2018 by Hot FiRe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Trade him for a haul now and then bring him back next offseason. Simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said: Trade him for a haul now and then bring him back next offseason. Simple. They're not getting a haul for Abreu so it's not that simple. Edited December 10, 2018 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 9 minutes ago, Hot FiRe said: I'll drive Jose to the airport if this is the offer the Sox get. Bye bye Jose. This doesn't shock anyone considering you'd drive him to the airport if they dfa'd him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrathofhahn Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Just now, Hot FiRe said: I'll drive Jose to the airport if this is the offer the Sox get. Bye bye Jose. Their rumored offer for Goldie included both Perez and Bukauskas. If they add Alvarez they can keep Perez and Bukauskas. Olney is reporting that that the Astros are down on Bukauskas and are trying to move him in their trade offers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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