bschmaranz Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 9 minutes ago, GreenSox said: Even if I bought a Yankee stadium excuse (which I don't ) that's still a bad trade. Stephens is one of our better pitching prospects (I know the cw is that this org is replete with pitching, but it isn't). Yolmer is a very viable utility player. Sox are in no position to trade any talent for 1 year players. I wouldn't wanna trade Yolmer, but Stephens hasn't shown to be much. 25, had trouble at Charlotte. Wouldn't say he's a top pitching prospect, not in our system, not in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 While Harper to the Cubs makes me nervous, I just feel Machado makes more sense for them. Play him at SS or 3rd base, and move Kris to the OF if he plays at 3rd. Really depends if addison Russell is their SS next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 27 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Wasn't Stephens just left unprotected in the rule 5 draft and then undrafted during it? Lol really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogsplash31 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 I feel like these meetings are going to go like the time my wife went to Best Buy with 900 dollars to get a tv. She came home with two blue ray DVD players, an ipod, and the boxed set of Will and Grace and King of Queens instead. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, frogsplash31 said: I feel like these meetings are going to go like the time my wife went to Best Buy with 900 dollars to get a tv. She came home with two blue ray DVD players, an ipod, and the boxed set of Will and Grace and King of Queens instead. Why did you send your wife to get a TV lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogsplash31 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, SonofaRoache said: Why did you send your wife to get a TV lol. Because we already agreed on the tv. All she had to do was go get it while she was out. It wasn't in stock at the store. Moral of the story, Haper/Machado or nothing. Edited December 9, 2018 by frogsplash31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Wonder if Cardinals would package Gorman if we pay full freight for Fowler. Fowler needs out of St. Louis and despite a horrible year (negative WAR) could be a serviceable place holder at any OF position. Maybe Carson Fulmer goes their way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 11 minutes ago, Flash said: Wonder if Cardinals would package Gorman if we pay full freight for Fowler. Fowler needs out of St. Louis and despite a horrible year (negative WAR) could be a serviceable place holder at any OF position. Maybe Carson Fulmer goes their way. Do you like Gorman better than Bryce Bush? Fowler is owed around $50 million. Geez, what a bad contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, oldsox said: Do you like Gorman better than Bryce Bush? Fowler is owed around $50 million. Geez, what a bad contract. I would tend to favor Gorman due to his power and LH bat but agree Bush has been very impressive thus far. Sox sprang over $50M to acquire Robert and I tend to believe Fowler can bounce back. Plus he's a switch hitter who can leadoff if he gets his mojo back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Welp, no scoops https://mobile.twitter.com/barstoolWSD/status/1071578997853708288 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Why not go crazy? Not like I'm going to be right anyway, so here goes: Sign Bryce Harper and Manny Machado to identical 10 year $370 million deals. Sign Michael Brantley for 2 years/$30 million Sign Gio Gonzalez for 2 years/$25 million Sign Drew Pomeranz for 1 year/$10 million Sign Cody Allen for 2 years/$20 million Sign Zach Britton for 2 years/$20 million Trade Jordan Stephens, Jordan Guerrero, and Yolmer Sanchez to Mariners for Mallex Smith and Carlos Santana Trade Jose Abreu to Dodgers for Will Smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, Dam8610 said: Why not go crazy? Not like I'm going to be right anyway, so here goes: Sign Bryce Harper and Manny Machado to identical 10 year $370 million deals. Sign Michael Brantley for 2 years/$30 million Sign Gio Gonzalez for 2 years/$25 million Sign Drew Pomeranz for 1 year/$10 million Sign Cody Allen for 2 years/$20 million Sign Zach Britton for 2 years/$20 million Trade Jordan Stephens, Jordan Guerrero, and Yolmer Sanchez to Mariners for Mallex Smith and Carlos Santana Trade Jose Abreu to Dodgers for Will Smith Ban bet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Hot FiRe said: Ban bet? No, Ron, for two reasons. 1) I stated I was being ridiculous. 2) When all of that happens, you'd just back out. 2 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinski Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) Loving the ideas an optimism on all of this. My one question in all of this is who leads off in 19’ ? if we get Harper I have no idea, if we get Machado I’d want either Pollock (if cost is right re injuries) or McCutchen for his OBP. Obviously can’t have an outfield of Cutch, Harper and Eloy, watching that would be painful. Id not hate Yoan having another shot but id like him to bat lower and just concentrate on learning with a little less pressure. Edited December 9, 2018 by Colinski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 9, 2018 Author Share Posted December 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Colinski said: Loving the ideas an optimism on all of this. My one question in all of this is who leads off in 19’ ? if we get Harper I have no idea, if we get Machado I’d want either Pollock (if cost is right re injuries) or McCutchen for his OBP. Obviously can’t have an outfield of Cutch, Harper and Eloy, watching that would be painful. Id not hate Yoan having another shot but id like him to bat lower and just concentrate on learning with a little less pressure. I think you start the season with Yoan in the leadoff spot and adjust accordingly. I do hope if we add Harper, we turn around and add Murphy or Dozier on a one year deal (with Moncada moving to 3B). While neither of those guys are ideal leadoff hitters per se, they at least are typically high OBP types which is something our roster is lacking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said: I think you start the season with Yoan in the leadoff spot and adjust accordingly. I do hope if we add Harper, we turn around and add Murphy or Dozier on a one year deal (with Moncada moving to 3B). While neither of those guys are ideal leadoff hitters per se, they at least are typically high OBP types which is something our roster is lacking. I wouldn't be against signing Murphy short term to DH or play 1B if Abreu was traded. Not to move Moncada off 2B, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Stuff Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, Dam8610 said: I wouldn't be against signing Murphy short term to DH or play 1B if Abreu was traded. Not to move Moncada off 2B, though. What do the Sox get in signing guys like Dozier or Murphy? Do they help us win 70 games in 2019 instead of 65? If those are options for losing Abreu then no thanks to trading him. It really is time to start thinking bigger than guys like Dozier or Murphy if we’re going to take the next step and get out of this rebuild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, DH in the NL said: What do the Sox get in signing guys like Dozier or Murphy? Do they help us win 70 games in 2019 instead of 65? If those are options for losing Abreu then no thanks to trading him. It really is time to start thinking bigger than guys like Dozier or Murphy if we’re going to take the next step and get out of this rebuild. I'm not saying that's the only move you do, I'm saying it's a move that would potentially help in conjunction with other moves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) Winter meetings PSA: 1) Check your twitter sources to make sure you don't get duped by a fake account 2) If posting something plausible from a rando twitter, add a qualifier such as "TIFWIW" or Take it with a massive grain of salt" 3) Don't give me any horseshit. If it looks ridiculous, don't post it. If a posted trade from a rando looks massively one-sided, use your brain. Most of you have an idea of a fair value trade that would actually happen. Edited December 9, 2018 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Stuff Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Dam8610 said: I'm not saying that's the only move you do, I'm saying it's a move that would potentially help in conjunction with other moves. At this time those 2 would be dead money to JR. Look at the 2 teams that traded for them this year. The Cubs and Dodgers. Both playoff teams in need of a veteran with experience to help them down the stretch. These type of players you trade for at the trade deadline in 2020 at the earliest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 9, 2018 Author Share Posted December 9, 2018 18 minutes ago, DH in the NL said: What do the Sox get in signing guys like Dozier or Murphy? Do they help us win 70 games in 2019 instead of 65? If those are options for losing Abreu then no thanks to trading him. It really is time to start thinking bigger than guys like Dozier or Murphy if we’re going to take the next step and get out of this rebuild. A high upside, rebound candidate that makes us better in 2019 and serves as a bridge to Madrigal. Dozier & Murphy are both coming off rough seasons, but were 5+ WAR players in 2016 & 2017. Those are exactly the type of guys we should take a chance on because they can actually become valuable flip guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 I guess my dream meetings would be: Sign FA Machado, Happ and Grandal Trade Collins, Dunning, Madrigal + for Haniger Trade Stephans and Adolfo for Greinke and 30MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 11 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Winter meetings PSA: 1) Check your twitter sources to make sure you don't get duped by a fake account 2) If posting something plausible from a rando twitter, add a qualifier such as "TIFWIW" or Take it with a massive grain of salt" 3) Don't give me any horseshit. If it looks ridiculous, don't post it. If a posted trade from a rando looks massively one-sided, use your brain. Most of you have an idea of a fair value trade that would actually happen. 4) step out of this thread if you require all of the above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: 4) step out of this thread if you require all of the above Why is that too much to ask? More of a request than a requirement. I find it highly annoying to have to weed through the bullshit. Edited December 9, 2018 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Why is that too much to ask? People do what they want. Welcome to soxtalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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