Dick Allen Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 11 minutes ago, bschmaranz said: This. Boras wouldn't take that nonsense. peavy44 told us Boras has nothing to do with this. It's all Harper and all he wants is Chicago. So have faith. His facebook source is pretty, pretty, pretty good. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 14 minutes ago, ptatc said: In 4 years Trout will have signed his new deal and it will probably reset the market. The thing is a 4 year opt out is way preferably to a 4 year contract. If Harper suffers a career changing injury he doesnt opt out and he still makes his $300mil+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peavy44 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: To me, these Dodgers leaks are clearly coming from the Boras camp. Make the White Sox their their offer isn’t good and bid against themselves. Well if harper waits past December we know hes going wait for cubs or dodgers then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: To me, these Dodgers leaks are clearly coming from the Boras camp. Make the White Sox their their offer isn’t good and bid against themselves. I've agreed with you until this point. I think the news of the Dodgers unloading contracts in the near future validate them being a huge threat. The Dodgers may be willing to match any offer we make as they know they can win a WS next year with a few tweaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 minute ago, peavy44 said: Well if harper waits past December we know hes going wait for cubs or dodgers then. What changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, peavy44 said: Well if harper waits past December we know hes going wait for cubs or dodgers then. But you said....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said: I've agreed with you until this point. I think the news of the Dodgers unloading contracts in the near future validate them being a huge threat. The Dodgers may be willing to match any offer we make as they know they can win a WS next year with a few tweaks. The Dodgers may be thinking of unloading contracts, but notably they have not yet done so. When a move requires 3 or 4 steps to happen first, and none of those steps have happened, it makes the latter move less likely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 21 minutes ago, peavy44 said: He can be free agent at the age of 30. He can also take a long-term deal with an opt-out at 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Just now, Dick Allen said: What changed? He logged off of Facebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Balta1701 said: The Dodgers may be thinking of unloading contracts, but notably they have not yet done so. When a move requires 3 or 4 steps to happen first, and none of those steps have happened, it makes the latter move less likely. It may not have happened yet, but it means there is smoke to the Dodgers fire that they are trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: peavy44 told us Boras has nothing to do with this. It's all Harper and all he wants is Chicago. So have faith. His facebook source is pretty, pretty, pretty good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Just now, SonofaRoache said: It may not have happened yet, but it means there is smoke to the Dodgers fire that they are trying. They have to move pieces no matter what as they have too many starters and outfielders and need another infielder and reliever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: The Dodgers may be thinking of unloading contracts, but notably they have not yet done so. When a move requires 3 or 4 steps to happen first, and none of those steps have happened, it makes the latter move less likely. The part that makes me suspicious about the Dodgers interest is. The Dodgers can sign Harper first, and then move contracts later. Maybe they wont get *as* much talent because people know they are more desperate to move them, but still if Harper is so important you sign him and then worry about cutting salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yesterday333 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Just now, Soxbadger said: The part that makes me suspicious about the Dodgers interest is. The Dodgers can sign Harper first, and then move contracts later. Maybe they wont get *as* much talent because people know they are more desperate to move them, but still if Harper is so important you sign him and then worry about cutting salary. Right... I mean what happens when you move these pieces and he signs elsewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 I dunno why we even should engage this guy. He said yesterday the Dodgers were out and then used a tweet that didn't say they were out as reason to call them out. Now he's saying Cubs are likely, then says the Dodgers are in again if he waits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, Greek-konerko said: These winter meetings are boring as hell. 3 days almost nothing 🤔 So far, you're exactly right although one big move can potentially have a domino effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said: I've agreed with you until this point. I think the news of the Dodgers unloading contracts in the near future validate them being a huge threat. The Dodgers may be willing to match any offer we make as they know they can win a WS next year with a few tweaks. Friedman has never signed a free agent to a $100M contract with the Dodgers. Him paying close to $400M for Harper (an overpay on performance alone) does not fit his style. He can probably get slightly less production from Pollack for a fraction of the cost. Yes, Harper provides far more upside, but comes with huge long-term risks attached. I truly don’t see Friedman doing that no matter how badly the media wants to create that narrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Peavy44 has no sources lol he’s just saying random things 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Just now, Chicago White Sox said: Friedman has never signed a free agent to a $100M contract with the Dodgers. Him paying close to $400M for Harper (an overpay on performance alone) does not fit his style. He can probably get slightly less production from Pollack for a fraction of the cost. Yes, Harper provides far more upside, but comes with huge long-term risks attached. I truly don’t see Friedman doing that no matter how badly the media wants to create that narrative. How is this any different than the Sox? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Just now, Chicago White Sox said: Friedman has never signed a free agent to a $100M contract with the Dodgers. Him paying close to $400M for Harper (an overpay on performance alone) does not fit his style. He can probably get slightly less production from Pollack for a fraction of the cost. Yes, Harper provides far more upside, but comes with huge long-term risks attached. I truly don’t see Friedman doing that no matter how badly the media wants to create that narrative. Pollock would be a good add for them too. He's injured a lot and wouldn't have to play every day with all their depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, fathom said: They have to move pieces no matter what as they have too many starters and outfielders and need another infielder and reliever. If they were really desperate to make those moves, those moves are there to be made and teams aren't making them. That's telling me that the Dodgers aren't desperate to make those moves. When we needed to make moves - to sell off Sale and Eaton, or in RH's poor attempts to be competitive in 15, he was making them. If they're desperate to move salary, they should be moving salary right now and they're not. That at least tells me they're ok with making minor moves later if thats' what it comes to. (Edit: Pending results of next 2 days of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peavy44 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Friedman has never signed a free agent to a $100M contract with the Dodgers. Him paying close to $400M for Harper (an overpay on performance alone) does not fit his style. He can probably get slightly less production from Pollack for a fraction of the cost. Yes, Harper provides far more upside, but comes with huge long-term risks attached. I truly don’t see Friedman doing that no matter how badly the media wants to create that narrative. The white sox have never sign a player to $100 million contact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 minute ago, fathom said: How is this any different than the Sox? The Sox are in a completely different situation these days compared to where they used to be, where the Dodgers are basically in the same place. Your point is obviously valid but there's some differences there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Just now, Chicago White Sox said: Friedman has never signed a free agent to a $100M contract with the Dodgers. Him paying close to $400M for Harper (an overpay on performance alone) does not fit his style. He can probably get slightly less production from Pollack for a fraction of the cost. Yes, Harper provides far more upside, but comes with huge long-term risks attached. I truly don’t see Friedman doing that no matter how badly the media wants to create that narrative. The Dodgers situation reminds me more of a NBA team unloading contracts to sign the best free agents on the market. The stars probably want to go there (according to at least the perception of the media, etc.) and the Dodgers have enough flexibility to move pieces around, etc. to fit in these monster deals into their payroll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 minute ago, peavy44 said: The white sox have never sign a player to $100 million contact. BREAKING NEWS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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