bmags Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 We could also just sign Grandal and then trade him when Collins proves he is ready and then we don't have to deal with a struggling catcher during a time we all hope we are competitive, and if his bat is too good to keep down he can DH and sparingly play catcher. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Balta1701 said: So the plan is to bring Grandal in to mentor Collins at catcher, then move Collins to 1b because Grandal is the everyday catcher, right? With Collins being used as a 3rd catcher? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Just now, Swingandalongonetoleft said: Is Grandal related to or good friends with Harper/Machado? Already looked to see if there was a Manny connection, and it doesn't appear so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Just now, Swingandalongonetoleft said: Is Grandal related to or good friends with Harper/Machado? Former teammate of Machado! Perfect! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Just now, fathom said: Already looked to see if there was a Manny connection, and it doesn't appear so How is there not? They literally just played in the World Series together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 minute ago, soxfan2014 said: With Collins being used as a 3rd catcher? don't count your chickens before they hatch. Castillo is gone after next year, who knows what Seby is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: So the plan is to bring Grandal in to mentor Collins at catcher, then move Collins to 1b because Grandal is the everyday catcher, right? One thing it shows is Grandal doesn't appear to have a future coaching catchers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 10 minutes ago, OmarComing25 said: I don't see why signing Grandal would affect going after Harper/Machado. 100%, a Grandal addition should be considered on its own merits outside of Harper & Machado. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Maybe the Sox want to use Collins like the Cubs intended to use Schwarber. 1B/DH mostly and catch maybe once or twice a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 minute ago, soxfan2014 said: How is there not? They literally just played in the World Series together. True. But during the World Series, Grandal was benched in favor of their backup because he couldn't catch. Grandal is an OBP machine and has really good power. But he is streaky as hell and seriously cannot catch the damn baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said: How is there not? They literally just played in the World Series together. sorry, meant significant friendship due to growing up in Florida, etc. Manny's closest friends appear to be Schoop, Alonso, Almora and J. Jay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREEDY Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, Soxnfins said: True. I believe Grandal had White Sox written all over him as soon as he hit FA. In all fairness there are about 25 teams that could use Grandal, 20 of which are closer to the playoffs than the White Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Why don't the Dodgers want him back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Just now, Charlie Haeger's Knuckles said: True. But during the World Series, Grandal was benched in favor of their backup because he couldn't catch. Grandal is an OBP machine and has really good power. But he is streaky as hell and seriously cannot catch the damn baseball. He just had a bad game or two defensively. If that caused his market to collapse, then good for the Sox. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Charlie Haeger's Knuckles said: True. But during the World Series, Grandal was benched in favor of their backup because he couldn't catch. Grandal is an OBP machine and has really good power. But he is streaky as hell and seriously cannot catch the damn baseball. You do know he is one of the better defensive catchers....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Whitesox27 said: Maybe the Sox want to use Collins like the Cubs intended to use Schwarber. 1B/DH mostly and catch maybe once or twice a week. Maybe the Sox should trade Collins if there's anyone left that actually thinks he's a catcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baker Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Also, collegiate gold glove catcher, Langeliers, could be in the mix in 2-3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Just now, fathom said: He just had a bad game or two defensively. If that caused his market to collapse, then good for the Sox. Seriously, if we can get a good discount because teams overreacted to one series then I'm all for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 I really wanted Machado and Grandal at the start of the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 minute ago, fathom said: Maybe the Sox should trade Collins if there's anyone left that actually thinks he's a catcher. If the Sox add Grandal, it reflects they don’t believe Collins is likely to stick there. Personally, I think this type of move makes a ton of sense if that’s the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said: Maybe the Sox want to use Collins like the Cubs intended to use Schwarber. 1B/DH mostly and catch maybe once or twice a week. The idea of a guy catching 1 or 2 times per week really doesn't hold together in modern baseball. If you're giving up on the idea of the guy as an everyday catcher, it's because either you think his bat plays elsewhere and you're not going to catch him because you want him to stay healthy, or you're deciding he's just not a good enough catcher so you're making him a backup. A guy can't prepare to hit regular pitching every day and then just pick up "being a catcher" as a hobby. There's just too much work and preparation involved for the catcher's spot. You can call the guy your emergency catcher, that's ok, but if he's your everyday 1b, he's not a part time catcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, cjgalloway said: You do know he is one of the better defensive catchers....... I had no idea. Is that based on metrics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: If the Sox add Grandal, it reflects they don’t believe Collins is likely to stick there. Personally, I think this type of move makes a ton of sense if that’s the case. Castillo is under contract for just one more season. I think Collins could be used behind the plate every now and then. Someone mentioned like Gattis. That seems pretty plausible. Besides, Sox catchers usually get hurt, so who knows. By May 1st, Collins may be the starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nardiwashere Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Just now, Balta1701 said: The idea of a guy catching 1 or 2 times per week really doesn't hold together in modern baseball. If you're giving up on the idea of the guy as an everyday catcher, it's because either you think his bat plays elsewhere and you're not going to catch him because you want him to stay healthy, or you're deciding he's just not a good enough catcher so you're making him a backup. A guy can't prepare to hit regular pitching every day and then just pick up "being a catcher" as a hobby. You can call the guy your emergency catcher, that's ok, but if he's your everyday 1b, he's not a part time catcher. I don't follow. Catchers don't prepare to hit? Cubs have done this as recently as two years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Just now, Charlie Haeger's Knuckles said: I had no idea. Is that based on metrics? Yes, the advance stats have generally liked Grandal (of course, they don't include last postseason). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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