103 mph screwball Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 They would downplay any involvement with Harper to prevent another disappointment disaster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 What I got from that interview and the following rest of Lawrence Holmes show was my dream that Lawrence be named General Manager for just enough time to sign Harper. Like he said towards the end of the show, Bryce wants someone to come in and save him from having to sign with the Phillies. I am just going to hold out for the hope that the Sox are now working under the radar and have not actually taken themselves out of the Bryce Harper sweepstakes. Go get the bigger whale Rick and all is forgiven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peacock Wrestler Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 1 minute ago, wegner said: What I got from that interview and the following rest of Lawrence Holmes show was my dream that Lawrence be named General Manager for just enough time to sign Harper. Like he said towards the end of the show, Bryce wants someone to come in and save him from having to sign with the Phillies. I am just going to hold out for the hope that the Sox are now working under the radar and have not actually taken themselves out of the Bryce Harper sweepstakes. Go get the bigger whale Rick and all is forgiven. Forgiven, but not forgotten. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, iamshack said: Lillian, Your posts have been A+ on this topic. Thank you. However, you only think that because you're not hysterical and mired in a fit of rage and anger. Stay cool and stay tuned. Hey, do we get some sort of medal for loyalty to what most here are convinced is a train wreck of an organization? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 I personally cant give the Sox FO the benefit of the doubt that they will do something that makes sense in FA other than what they usually do. I refuse to fall for the reading between the lines and trying to read the mind of this front office and how they are approaching a meaningful signing. I won't do it ever again with this current FO and owner. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 https://www.sportingnews.com/au/mlb/news/tim-anderson-manny-machado-might-have-missed-the-boat-by-signing-with-padres-over-white-sox/u9xrqw96v9fa1aad4aqiwh6oi Tim Anderson showing the expected leadership and cockiness we’ve come to expect... Anderson was asked if four-time All-Star Machado "missed the boat" by signing with San Diego over Chicago. Th 25-year-old told reporters: "He might have. But we're going to keep rolling. "You know, you can ride with us or don't. ... We couldn't care less who's on the boat with us. We know who all is on the boat with us and we know which way we're going to sail." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: https://www.sportingnews.com/au/mlb/news/tim-anderson-manny-machado-might-have-missed-the-boat-by-signing-with-padres-over-white-sox/u9xrqw96v9fa1aad4aqiwh6oi Tim Anderson showing the expected leadership and cockiness we’ve come to expect... Anderson was asked if four-time All-Star Machado "missed the boat" by signing with San Diego over Chicago. Th 25-year-old told reporters: "He might have. But we're going to keep rolling. "You know, you can ride with us or don't. ... We couldn't care less who's on the boat with us. We know who all is on the boat with us and we know which way we're going to sail." Go juggle more balls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: https://www.sportingnews.com/au/mlb/news/tim-anderson-manny-machado-might-have-missed-the-boat-by-signing-with-padres-over-white-sox/u9xrqw96v9fa1aad4aqiwh6oi Tim Anderson showing the expected leadership and cockiness we’ve come to expect... Anderson was asked if four-time All-Star Machado "missed the boat" by signing with San Diego over Chicago. Th 25-year-old told reporters: "He might have. But we're going to keep rolling. "You know, you can ride with us or don't. ... We couldn't care less who's on the boat with us. We know who all is on the boat with us and we know which way we're going to sail." Tim is sometimes hard to understand, but when what he says can be heard and understood, he can be quite eloquent. This was one of his better moments. I enjoyed the boat metaphor. I like his confidence and his team spirit. Edited February 21, 2019 by Lillian 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Lillian said: Thank you. However, you only think that because you're not hysterical and mired in a fit of rage and anger. Stay cool and stay tuned. Hey, do we get some sort of medal for loyalty to what most here are convinced is a train wreck of an organization? All allegedly known facts go against sox signing harper. 1) Machado allegedly Sox #1 target 2) Sox not willing to offer 10 years 300mil. 3) Harper has allegedly turned down a more lucrative offer than that. So now im supposed to believe that the sox are going to pay more money for their 2nd choice when they could have just signed their first choice? That makes 0 sense. But i guess that is the reason it may happen. Its illogical, so therefore its the White Sox way. Ive been here a decade, im a pretty positive person. But if i was betting greg's house, id bet against the Sox getting Harper. Edited February 21, 2019 by Soxbadger 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Lillian said: Tim is sometimes hard to understand, but when what he says can be heard and understood, he can be quite eloquent. This was one of his better moments. I enjoyed the boat metaphor. I too enjoyed the boat metaphor. I really like Anderson. He plays with intensity and really seems to enjoy playing the game. That can be infectious. With the life perspective he was given with the tragedy a couple years ago, I think he can grow into a real leader on this team going forward (a real captain of this boat). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Why are people pissed at Anderson? It's not his fault the org put the players in this circus position. I want players to roll with what they have, I hate when players pine for acquisitions, it inherently is undercutting a teammate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yesterday333 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Soxbadger said: All allegedly known facts go against sox signing harper. 1) Machado allegedly Sox #1 target 2) Sox not willing to offer 10 years 300mil. 3) Harper has allegedly turned down a more lucrative offer than that. So now im supposed to believe that the sox are going to pay more money for their 2nd choice when they could have just signed their first choice? That makes 0 sense. But i guess that is the reason it may happen. Its illogical, so therefore its the White Sox way. Ive been here a decade, im a pretty positive person. But if i was betting greg's house, id bet against the Sox getting Harper. Not trying to say we are in on him, but what if part of the reason Manny was our first choice is because we thought he would be cheaper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Just now, yesterday333 said: Not trying to say we are in on him, but what if part of the reason Manny was our first choice is because we thought he would be cheaper? How does this help the Harper case. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, yesterday333 said: Not trying to say we are in on him, but what if part of the reason Manny was our first choice is because we thought he would be cheaper? Probably the truth. The reality is though that Machado was the better fit organizationally, and they blew it. If the Sox have any strength in their farm, it is OF prospects. It was probably always Machado or bust people. Edited February 21, 2019 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Just now, yesterday333 said: Not trying to say we are in on him, but what if part of the reason Manny was our first choice is because we thought he would be cheaper? But that still doesn't explain why they would pay over $325 guaranteed for Harper if they could just pay less than that for their preferred choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Just now, yesterday333 said: Not trying to say we are in on him, but what if part of the reason Manny was our first choice is because we thought he would be cheaper? You dont trade for Yonder and sign Jay if that is true. And 30 mil per year for Machado is likely cheaper than what Harper wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Soxbadger said: You dont trade for Yonder and sign Jay if that is true. And 30 mil per year for Machado is likely cheaper than what Harper wants. The Sox spent $13 million they didn't have to spend. It's almost a third of the difference between their offer and SD's. And people were laughing at me for suggesting Manny would probably prefer the Sox spent that $13 million on their offer. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: The Sox spent $13 million they didn't have to spend. It's almost a third of the difference between their offer and SD's. And people were laughing at me for suggesting Manny would probably prefer the Sox spent that $13 million on their offer. Yeah. Those moves really don't move the needle at all for Machado honestly. Jay and Alonso being here are "if the offers are identical, literally matching" tie-breaker reasons to accept the Sox offer. As someone said on Twitter, Manny isn't basing signing a 10 year deal on his friends being here a guaranteed 1 year. Edited February 21, 2019 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skooch Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, wegner said: I too enjoyed the boat metaphor. I really like Anderson. He plays with intensity and really seems to enjoy playing the game. That can be infectious. With the life perspective he was given with the tragedy a couple years ago, I think he can grow into a real leader on this team going forward (a real captain of this boat). Ricky better watch out. Does PJ Fleck know anything about baseball? #RTB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 52 minutes ago, Lillian said: Regardless of what Hahn might say, it seems very implausible that they would not attempt to sign their other major targeted acquisition. The market seems to be favoring the buyers and with the Phillies now being about the only other team in the Harper sweepstakes, why wouldn't they? I can't imagine that they anticipated such a lack of suitors and if they originally were determined to try to get both, what justification would they now have for passing on the one remaining? It just wouldn't make any sense. That said, as patient as I have been, I too will lose all confidence in this organization if they do not make a concerted effort to sign Harper. If they had never espoused an interest in these two young free agents, I could accept that, but after all of that bluster and bravado, it would just be completely inexcusable. Fortunately, that very odd rationale, which Hahn provided, regarding no longer being in on the Harper negotiations, because they don't want to drive up the cost for the Phillies, suggests to me that he was not being forthright. The only way I can explain that comment is to attribute it to an attempt to conceal their true intentions. Otherwise, it would have to be considered one of the dumbest comments that Hahn has ever made. Why in the world would they want the Phillies to get Harper, at a better price? And finally, as we all know, delivering on Harper is now more important for retaining the fan base, than it was when all of this started. At this point, what Hahn, the twitter posters, or any of us care to postulate, or speculate, is less meaningful than the simple logic. One can only imagine how much pressure there is to get a deal done for Harper. Wouldn't you love to be privy to the internal communications of this front office? It's probably more interesting now, than it has been, at any point in the off season. It probably looks more like a war room, assessing damage control, after a major attack. So I've been churning all this over to try to make a story as I like telling stories and I think there is one to tell here. Let's start with 1 given point; that the White Sox's player evaluations are totally, completely, broken. Let's go from there. The White Sox put together their budgets and put Machado at $175 and Harper at $225. They realize they can afford both of them at those values. In December they meet with Boras and put an offer similar to that on the table, they meet with Machado in late December and put that offer on the table. Boras doesn't give much of a response but they hear out the White Sox's presentation. Machado's side starts negotiating. They bring in the "Much more experienced" negotiator at some point, and sometime in January they start adding vesting options. By mid-January the White Sox have a 7/$175 offer on the table to Machado and they've added 3 vesting options that could bring the value to $250, but they don't understand how those vesting options are viewed or how low that dollar amount is. They think that is a huge dollar amount, so they leak their offer to Bruce Levine thinking that it's so big it will scare away the competition, and Bruce doesn't get all the details but he also hears that the amount could go up to $250, so he's on the radio giving that classic interview about how the contract could be worth more. The White Sox think the $175 million offer will scare teams away, instead suddenly teams realize that this isn't going to go well over $300 million and they start sniffing around. Other offers start appearing, so Lozano's side goes to the White Sox and says they're going to have to guarantee that money just to get into the conversation. The White Sox gradually increase their guarantee, including right before Soxfest where they think they've done what Lozano asked and they think they're going to get it wrapped up at $200 million or so. Lozano still understands that's no where close to the final total, but every time the White Sox up their offer they think they're doing Machado a favor and bidding against themselves. Meanwhile, the White Sox keep leaking that they think they have a shot at both of them because they could do both for $225 million deals, but Scott Boras has stopped taking their calls because they're so far out of the race they're not worth hearing from, so they haven't talked in weeks. Over the last few weeks the Padres get more serious, realize that this isn't going to break their bank, their GM works with ownership to get ownership on board, and they come in with a strong $280 million guarantee last week. The White Sox up their bid to $250 million guaranteed. They think "They've done everything Lozano asked them to do" because that was something he asked them to do in January - Rick Hahn's words. When the $280 million offer comes through, the White Sox go ahead and add in 2 vesting options that they are convinced are valuable to the player, failing to understand how weak those are from the player's side. When Lozano comes around and says "I'll sign at $300", the White Sox don't even think it's worth talking about because they're convinced they've been bidding against themselves. That pushes the Phillies out, the Padres say yes, and he's a Padre. Meanwhile, everything the insiders heard was true - that the White Sox had a budget for Harper and Machado, that Machado's budget was less, and that they didn't want Machado's money to get into the Harper range, but they thought they were doing Machado a favor by going into that range. Meanwhile, they don't realize nearly how far away they are, and when other teams realize they're scooping up good deals, the White Sox go into "We've got to pay for the rest of our roster" excuse mode. So, we still hear some of the "They have a budget for Harper that was higher than Machado" stuff, but that's because they never realized that the budgets they had for both of them were laughably low. They thought that a $175 million offer would scare teams away, but it did the exact opposite, and they thought they were bidding against themselves as they went through their own ceiling to put that $250 million offer on the table for Machado. I don't know if it's right, but that's basically every single leak this offseason fit into one tidy picture. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greek-konerko Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 So..... U guys think hahn after machado fiasco will sign someone else not named bryce or hes done adding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Just now, Greek-konerko said: So..... U guys think hahn after machado fiasco will sign someone else not named bryce or hes done adding Hopefully done adding. Don't really want Keuchel nor Kimbrel on short term deals (giving up draft picks) without Machado. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: So I've been churning all this over to try to make a story as I like telling stories and I think there is one to tell here. Let's start with 1 given point; that the White Sox's player evaluations are totally, completely, broken. Let's go from there. The White Sox put together their budgets and put Machado at $175 and Harper at $225. They realize they can afford both of them at those values. In December they meet with Boras and put an offer similar to that on the table, they meet with Machado in late December and put that offer on the table. Boras doesn't give much of a response but they hear out the White Sox's presentation. Machado's side starts negotiating. They bring in the "Much more experienced" negotiator at some point, and sometime in January they start adding vesting options. By mid-January the White Sox have a 7/$175 offer on the table to Machado and they've added 3 vesting options that could bring the value to $250, but they don't understand how those vesting options are viewed or how low that dollar amount is. They think that is a huge dollar amount, so they leak their offer to Bruce Levine thinking that it's so big it will scare away the competition, and Bruce doesn't get all the details but he also hears that the amount could go up to $250, so he's on the radio giving that classic interview about how the contract could be worth more. The White Sox think the $175 million offer will scare teams away, instead suddenly teams realize that this isn't going to go well over $300 million and they start sniffing around. Other offers start appearing, so Lozano's side goes to the White Sox and says they're going to have to guarantee that money just to get into the conversation. The White Sox gradually increase their guarantee, including right before Soxfest where they think they've done what Lozano asked and they think they're going to get it wrapped up at $200 million or so. Lozano still understands that's no where close to the final total, but every time the White Sox up their offer they think they're doing Machado a favor and bidding against themselves. Meanwhile, the White Sox keep leaking that they think they have a shot at both of them because they could do both for $225 million deals, but Scott Boras has stopped taking their calls because they're so far out of the race they're not worth hearing from, so they haven't talked in weeks. Over the last few weeks the Padres get more serious, realize that this isn't going to break their bank, their GM works with ownership to get ownership on board, and they come in with a strong $280 million guarantee last week. The White Sox up their bid to $250 million guaranteed. They think "They've done everything Lozano asked them to do" because that was something he asked them to do in January - Rick Hahn's words. When the $280 million offer comes through, the White Sox go ahead and add in 2 vesting options that they are convinced are valuable to the player, failing to understand how weak those are from the player's side. When Lozano comes around and says "I'll sign at $300", the White Sox don't even think it's worth talking about because they're convinced they've been bidding against themselves. That pushes the Phillies out, the Padres say yes, and he's a Padre. Meanwhile, everything the insiders heard was true - that the White Sox had a budget for Harper and Machado, that Machado's budget was less, and that they didn't want Machado's money to get into the Harper range, but they thought they were doing Machado a favor by going into that range. Meanwhile, they don't realize nearly how far away they are, and when other teams realize they're scooping up good deals, the White Sox go into "We've got to pay for the rest of our roster" excuse mode. So, we still hear some of the "They have a budget for Harper that was higher than Machado" stuff, but that's because they never realized that the budgets they had for both of them were laughably low. They thought that a $175 million offer would scare teams away, but it did the exact opposite, and they thought they were bidding against themselves as they went through their own ceiling to put that $250 million offer on the table for Machado. I don't know if it's right, but that's basically every single leak this offseason fit into one tidy picture. We'll never know but I definitely think this was all fairly accurate. It lines up very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: So I've been churning all this over to try to make a story as I like telling stories and I think there is one to tell here. Let's start with 1 given point; that the White Sox's player evaluations are totally, completely, broken. Let's go from there. The White Sox put together their budgets and put Machado at $175 and Harper at $225. They realize they can afford both of them at those values. In December they meet with Boras and put an offer similar to that on the table, they meet with Machado in late December and put that offer on the table. Boras doesn't give much of a response but they hear out the White Sox's presentation. Machado's side starts negotiating. They bring in the "Much more experienced" negotiator at some point, and sometime in January they start adding vesting options. By mid-January the White Sox have a 7/$175 offer on the table to Machado and they've added 3 vesting options that could bring the value to $250, but they don't understand how those vesting options are viewed or how low that dollar amount is. They think that is a huge dollar amount, so they leak their offer to Bruce Levine thinking that it's so big it will scare away the competition, and Bruce doesn't get all the details but he also hears that the amount could go up to $250, so he's on the radio giving that classic interview about how the contract could be worth more. The White Sox think the $175 million offer will scare teams away, instead suddenly teams realize that this isn't going to go well over $300 million and they start sniffing around. Other offers start appearing, so Lozano's side goes to the White Sox and says they're going to have to guarantee that money just to get into the conversation. The White Sox gradually increase their guarantee, including right before Soxfest where they think they've done what Lozano asked and they think they're going to get it wrapped up at $200 million or so. Lozano still understands that's no where close to the final total, but every time the White Sox up their offer they think they're doing Machado a favor and bidding against themselves. Meanwhile, the White Sox keep leaking that they think they have a shot at both of them because they could do both for $225 million deals, but Scott Boras has stopped taking their calls because they're so far out of the race they're not worth hearing from, so they haven't talked in weeks. Over the last few weeks the Padres get more serious, realize that this isn't going to break their bank, their GM works with ownership to get ownership on board, and they come in with a strong $280 million guarantee last week. The White Sox up their bid to $250 million guaranteed. They think "They've done everything Lozano asked them to do" because that was something he asked them to do in January - Rick Hahn's words. When the $280 million offer comes through, the White Sox go ahead and add in 2 vesting options that they are convinced are valuable to the player, failing to understand how weak those are from the player's side. When Lozano comes around and says "I'll sign at $300", the White Sox don't even think it's worth talking about because they're convinced they've been bidding against themselves. That pushes the Phillies out, the Padres say yes, and he's a Padre. Meanwhile, everything the insiders heard was true - that the White Sox had a budget for Harper and Machado, that Machado's budget was less, and that they didn't want Machado's money to get into the Harper range, but they thought they were doing Machado a favor by going into that range. Meanwhile, they don't realize nearly how far away they are, and when other teams realize they're scooping up good deals, the White Sox go into "We've got to pay for the rest of our roster" excuse mode. So, we still hear some of the "They have a budget for Harper that was higher than Machado" stuff, but that's because they never realized that the budgets they had for both of them were laughably low. They thought that a $175 million offer would scare teams away, but it did the exact opposite, and they thought they were bidding against themselves as they went through their own ceiling to put that $250 million offer on the table for Machado. I don't know if it's right, but that's basically every single leak this offseason fit into one tidy picture. Excellent take. You're probably spot on. Now the Sox better do whatever it takes to sign Harper or forget ever being relevant again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: So I've been churning all this over to try to make a story as I like telling stories and I think there is one to tell here. Let's start with 1 given point; that the White Sox's player evaluations are totally, completely, broken. Let's go from there. The White Sox put together their budgets and put Machado at $175 and Harper at $225. They realize they can afford both of them at those values. In December they meet with Boras and put an offer similar to that on the table, they meet with Machado in late December and put that offer on the table. Boras doesn't give much of a response but they hear out the White Sox's presentation. Machado's side starts negotiating. They bring in the "Much more experienced" negotiator at some point, and sometime in January they start adding vesting options. By mid-January the White Sox have a 7/$175 offer on the table to Machado and they've added 3 vesting options that could bring the value to $250, but they don't understand how those vesting options are viewed or how low that dollar amount is. They think that is a huge dollar amount, so they leak their offer to Bruce Levine thinking that it's so big it will scare away the competition, and Bruce doesn't get all the details but he also hears that the amount could go up to $250, so he's on the radio giving that classic interview about how the contract could be worth more. The White Sox think the $175 million offer will scare teams away, instead suddenly teams realize that this isn't going to go well over $300 million and they start sniffing around. Other offers start appearing, so Lozano's side goes to the White Sox and says they're going to have to guarantee that money just to get into the conversation. The White Sox gradually increase their guarantee, including right before Soxfest where they think they've done what Lozano asked and they think they're going to get it wrapped up at $200 million or so. Lozano still understands that's no where close to the final total, but every time the White Sox up their offer they think they're doing Machado a favor and bidding against themselves. Meanwhile, the White Sox keep leaking that they think they have a shot at both of them because they could do both for $225 million deals, but Scott Boras has stopped taking their calls because they're so far out of the race they're not worth hearing from, so they haven't talked in weeks. Over the last few weeks the Padres get more serious, realize that this isn't going to break their bank, their GM works with ownership to get ownership on board, and they come in with a strong $280 million guarantee last week. The White Sox up their bid to $250 million guaranteed. They think "They've done everything Lozano asked them to do" because that was something he asked them to do in January - Rick Hahn's words. When the $280 million offer comes through, the White Sox go ahead and add in 2 vesting options that they are convinced are valuable to the player, failing to understand how weak those are from the player's side. When Lozano comes around and says "I'll sign at $300", the White Sox don't even think it's worth talking about because they're convinced they've been bidding against themselves. That pushes the Phillies out, the Padres say yes, and he's a Padre. Meanwhile, everything the insiders heard was true - that the White Sox had a budget for Harper and Machado, that Machado's budget was less, and that they didn't want Machado's money to get into the Harper range, but they thought they were doing Machado a favor by going into that range. Meanwhile, they don't realize nearly how far away they are, and when other teams realize they're scooping up good deals, the White Sox go into "We've got to pay for the rest of our roster" excuse mode. So, we still hear some of the "They have a budget for Harper that was higher than Machado" stuff, but that's because they never realized that the budgets they had for both of them were laughably low. They thought that a $175 million offer would scare teams away, but it did the exact opposite, and they thought they were bidding against themselves as they went through their own ceiling to put that $250 million offer on the table for Machado. I don't know if it's right, but that's basically every single leak this offseason fit into one tidy picture. This is probably accurate, sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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