whitesoxwinner Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Just now, Balta1701 said: Well if we were still being reasonable, the other answer next offseason is frontline starting pitching. Of course, the White Sox still have a ton of starting pitching...and there's the minor problem of the Red Sox, Yankees, and Astros all needing starting pitching next offseason... Yeah everyone needs starting pitching. Even then, there's only Sale, Cole and Madbum. Not a lot of crop to choose from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EloyJenkins Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Arenado AAV is set at 32.5 as this became official. So...the absolute lowest the harper offer HAS to be now is 10/330. Realistically...that's what it always has been, nobody has been willing to yet. Phillies just got put into a position of Stupid money being a requirement now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, South Sider said: I think you gotta spend the stupid money on Harper now just to save yourself from spending stupid money on awful free agents down the road. Earmark that money to Bryce so that you don't have that money to buy more Keppingers and Jays. Seriously tho. I am not more interested in Harper than ever before. Pay the man his money to avoid spending top dollar on 2nd tier FA the next 2 offseasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Well if we were still being reasonable, the other answer next offseason is frontline starting pitching. Of course, the White Sox still have a ton of starting pitching...and there's the minor problem of the Red Sox, Yankees, and Astros all needing starting pitching next offseason... Lol...zero chance these chumps will offer the necessary amount of years to get a deal with a pitch if they wouldn’t even go 10 guaranteed years with a 26 year old Machado who has been incredibly durable since getting his knees fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxnfins Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Seriously tho. I am not more interested in Harper than ever before. Pay the man his money to avoid spending top dollar on 2nd tier FA the next 2 offseasons. That's not the White Sox way though...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perfect Vision Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, EloyJenkins said: Arenado AAV is set at 32.5 as this became official. So...the absolute lowest the harper offer HAS to be now is 10/330. Realistically...that's what it always has been, nobody has been willing to yet. Phillies just got put into a position of Stupid money being a requirement now. I feel like I'm going to be really disappointed all over again if/when Harper signs with the Phillies for 10/330. It's clear as day that he really doesn't want to go there. Boras is begging for someone else to come in with a competitive long term offer. I also get the strong impression that 10/330 is just about as high as the Phillies would go. If the Sox matched and the Phillies were told they had to go to 10/350 or something, I really think they would bow out and sign Keuchel instead (and possibly Kimbrel also). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Just now, Soxnfins said: That's not the White Sox way though...... At this rate we will be in the third tier market. The second tier will be out of our price range. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EloyJenkins Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, Perfect Vision said: I feel like I'm going to be really disappointed all over again if/when Harper signs with the Phillies for 10/330. It's clear as day that he really doesn't want to go there. Boras is begging for someone else to come in with a competitive long term offer. I also get the strong impression that 10/330 is just about as high as the Phillies would go. If the Sox matched and the Phillies were told they had to go to 10/350 or something, I really think they would bow out and sign Keuchel instead (and possibly Kimbrel also). yeah. what the shame is before this Arenado setting the 32.5 price per year...10/315 may have been potentially available with an opt out plan since the offers have been underwhelming. Bryce might have told Boras I will take the 10-15 million less to play in Chicago over Philly (because no star wants to live there). Now the 33 AAV is the LOWEST Boras will ever accept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polar Bear Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 This is why you had to land on of the big 2 this offseason. There will be no one even remotely as good as those 2 in the next few years with Arenado off the market and Trout soon to follow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, Moncada said: This is why you had to land on of the big 2 this offseason. There will be no one even remotely as good as those 2 in the next few years with Arenado off the market and Trout soon to follow. If the plan going into this offseason was not "We NEED to be the highest bidder for either Machado or Harper and ink one" then what the hell was the plan? Free agency is a simple concept, offer the largest pile of guaranteed money and you will sign the player. This is not the time for bargain bin shopping if you are serious about contention. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, steveno89 said: If the plan going into this offseason was not "We NEED to be the highest bidder for either Machado or Harper and ink one" then what the hell was the plan? Free agency is a simple concept, offer the largest pile of guaranteed money and you will sign the player. This is not the time for bargain bin shopping if you are serious about contention. Bmags saidnit right off the bat when we lost Manny to the Pads, winning the negotiation is extremely important to Jerry. To Jerry, agreeing to a number that the player is demanding is not even in the equation. There has to be some sort of compromise from the player/agent end but in reality they just want their money as they asking for it. They will wait until someone gives it. Messing around with Jerry and his art of the deal nonsense will have you f***** most of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesoxa6 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Can’t wait to see a tweet in the future saying Rick Hahn is a goddamn genius for trading a reliever for a mid tier prospect after this horseshit offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Why don't they just trade for Otto Porter? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDog847 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 27 minutes ago, Whitesoxa6 said: Can’t wait to see a tweet in the future saying Rick Hahn is a goddamn genius for trading a reliever for a mid tier prospect after this horseshit offseason. For sure. Merkin and Garfien are already scheduling their tweets. Get excited Sox Fans! Reinforcements are on their way! More AAAA filler like Tilson, Gillespie, Clarkin, and Cordell is coming this July! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 41 minutes ago, bschmaranz said: Why don't they just trade for Otto Porter? People keep posting this do not know the difference between NBA cap structure and MLB payroll. Regardless if the Bulls traded for OPJ then money would be spent somewhere, there are salary floors in NBA that need to be met. The floor is 90% of the cap, which the Bulls likely won't be have exceed by a huge margin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxwinner Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Don’t want another shack tidbit.. NEED another shack tidbit 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southwest Sider Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 1 minute ago, whitesoxwinner said: Don’t want another shack tidbit.. NEED another shack tidbit Y'all ain't ready. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kpet1010 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 1 minute ago, whitesoxwinner said: Don’t want another shack tidbit.. NEED another shack tidbit Yeah where the hell is he Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Just now, South Sider said: Y'all ain't ready. 👀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perfect Vision Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 According to Bob, opt out has been a sticking point for the Phillies. Sox really need to step up and give the opt out after 3 years if the Phillies won't. Could be the opening they need to win this thing despite the Phillies' potential willingness to offer more money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 (edited) If he won't commit to at least 4 years, I personally don't want him. Ideally, opt out after 5 years. I certainly wouldn't fault management, if they lose him to another team's bid, because we wouldn't offer that opt out, at 3 years. Edited February 26, 2019 by Lillian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaGame Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, Perfect Vision said: According to Bob, opt out has been a sticking point for the Phillies. Sox really need to step up and give the opt out after 3 years if the Phillies won't. Could be the opening they need to win this thing despite the Phillies' potential willingness to offer more money. What actually makes people think the Sox are negotiating with Harper? I haven't found one article or shred of evidence that they are. Well besides Shack's post and some blind hope on the board. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 10 minutes ago, Perfect Vision said: According to Bob, opt out has been a sticking point for the Phillies. Sox really need to step up and give the opt out after 3 years if the Phillies won't. Could be the opening they need to win this thing despite the Phillies' potential willingness to offer more money. Still can’t believe Machado agree to an opt-out after five years. I fully expect Harper to push for three and maybe willing to accept four. Five years is a total pipedream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Still can’t believe Machado agree to an opt-out after five years. I fully expect Harper to push for three and maybe willing to accept four. Five years is a total pipedream. Well the only other team in the mix seems to believe player opt outs are Stalinist or something Edited February 26, 2019 by mqr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, DaGame2584 said: What actually makes people think the Sox are negotiating with Harper? I haven't found one article or shred of evidence that they are. Well besides Shack's post and some blind hope on the board. Blind hope my friend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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