caulfield12 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Brantley Reddick and Springer...Marisnick and Fisher backing up. Astros would need to trade Reddick or Kyle Tucker for this to make any sense. Tucker has about as much premium value as anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Kemp, White or AJ Reed fighting for final roster spot with A.Diaz and backup outfielder/s, catcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 You just hate to see this if you're Charles The Cat 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsOnMintSt Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Does anyone still think that the White Sox remotely even have a chance with Harper at this point? You can make a great arguement for why he should, but I just don’t see anyway we land him. I would say our odds are around 10%. Have to think that we would have to considerably beat the Phillies offer, which I am assuming will be around 10-year, $350 million. Would think that we’d have to be at 10-year, $400 million, and I don’t see that happening if we’re right around $200 million for Manny Machado. However, I keep seeing them sox as one of the finalists. That has to be smoke from Boras trying to drive up offers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinsettle Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 1 hour ago, KnightsOnMintSt said: Does anyone still think that the White Sox remotely even have a chance with Harper at this point? You can make a great arguement for why he should, but I just don’t see anyway we land him. I would say our odds are around 10%. Have to think that we would have to considerably beat the Phillies offer, which I am assuming will be around 10-year, $350 million. Would think that we’d have to be at 10-year, $400 million, and I don’t see that happening if we’re right around $200 million for Manny Machado. However, I keep seeing them sox as one of the finalists. That has to be smoke from Boras trying to drive up offers. Is 350 million the going rate for a good but far from great player? Throw out his best and worse season and he averages 3.9 WAR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Sox will not overpay but I expect them to be fully IN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsOnMintSt Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Justinsettle said: Is 350 million the going rate for a good but far from great player? Throw out his best and worse season and he averages 3.9 WAR. If he rejected a 10-year, $300 million deal with Washington, I would guess his offer will be around $325 million to $350 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, KnightsOnMintSt said: If he rejected a 10-year, $300 million deal with Washington, I would guess his offer will be around $325 million to $350 million. That deal (allegedly) had no opt-outs, so it wasn't a real offer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, KnightsOnMintSt said: If he rejected a 10-year, $300 million deal with Washington, I would guess his offer will be around $325 million to $350 million. If you follow the $9-10 million value per fWAR, it’s going to be roughly a $35 to $40 million per year AAV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 The nats offer was before corbin and after reading more on nats my guess is they are well under 300 now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said: The nats offer was before corbin and after reading more on nats my guess is they are well under 300 now. The Nats aren’t legit threats for Harper. Edited January 19, 2019 by Chicago White Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: The Nats aren’t legit threats for Harper. Yep. And that’s why there’s not many ways this could play out where we don’t end up with one of the two whales. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said: Yep. And that’s why there’s not many ways this could play out where we don’t end up with one of the two whales. Agreed. Right now we’re looking good, but don’t want anyone jumping into the mix with exactly two whales for two teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 7 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: The Nats aren’t legit threats for Harper The real trick with the Nationals remains 2020. Right now, if they pick up the available options for guys like Eaton, Zimmerman, Gomes, etc - they would have over $200 million committed next year, and with how the tax numbers work out their luxury tax number would be well over $210 without adding anyone. Their tax number this year is already over $200 million, and they were a taxpaying team last year. If they were to sign Harper, they would wind up in the 3 year offender penallties. They'd be absolutely guaranteed of being $20 million over the tax this year and subject to a 42.5% penalty this year as multi-year repeat offenders, and if I'm reading this right next year they could be subject to a 62.5% penalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smellysox Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 22 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: The real trick with the Nationals remains 2020. Right now, if they pick up the available options for guys like Eaton, Zimmerman, Gomes, etc - they would have over $200 million committed next year, and with how the tax numbers work out their luxury tax number would be well over $210 without adding anyone. Their tax number this year is already over $200 million, and they were a taxpaying team last year. If they were to sign Harper, they would wind up in the 3 year offender penallties. They'd be absolutely guaranteed of being $20 million over the tax this year and subject to a 42.5% penalty this year as multi-year repeat offenders, and if I'm reading this right next year they could be subject to a 62.5% penalty. Don't the 3rd year offenders also lose draft picks or is that the next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 10 hours ago, smellysox said: Don't the 3rd year offenders also lose draft picks or is that the next year? I believe that only happens if they're $40 million over. Harper alone would get the Nats close to that, but probably not hit it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Not sure who he is but what the heck, blue checkmark!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, Orlando said: Not sure who he is but what the heck, blue checkmark!! "That have been out there" sounds like he is just referring to public reports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Spoken like someone completely utterly unfamiliar with who Boras is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Let's bring this thread back to life. With the Dodgers signing Pollack, they're most likely out of the Harper race. So that leaves the Sox, Phillies, and Nationals? Maybe a mystery team or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsOnMintSt Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 What do we think the Harper holdup is? If the Phillies made an offer, I would think it was a pretty big one. And we know the Nationals are around $300 million, as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, KnightsOnMintSt said: What do we think the Harper holdup is? If the Phillies made an offer, I would think it was a pretty big one. And we know the Nationals are around $300 million, as well. Machado is the hold up. He won't sign until Machado is wrapped up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 3 hours ago, KnightsOnMintSt said: What do we think the Harper holdup is? If the Phillies made an offer, I would think it was a pretty big one. And we know the Nationals are around $300 million, as well. No, the nationals are no longer there. They are out and their old offer is off the table after they've made numerous moves since. Phillies are the only market with an off chance that the White Sox are in hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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