southsider2k5 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 1 minute ago, iamshack said: This is idiotic, but does them signing Machado help convince Harper? It can't hurt if we are putting up the money for both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: At least we now have our very own version of Logan Morrison, albeit he could cut down on Anderson, Moncada and Machado throwing errors appreciably. Thanks for saying something I said 3 pages ago. (well Machado is a stud at 3B so he doesn't need much help) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Why didn’t the Indians just keep Alonso and use him to secure Machado on a deal with an opt-out after Year 3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
103 mph screwball Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 I think we are getting both. Getting one increases the chance of getting the other. Sox will overpay. The y have to. But so what! Make it back on better TV deal. Mr Reinsdorf is 83! Everyone is sick of losing. Going for it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Just now, caulfield12 said: Why didn’t the Indians just keep Alonso and use him to secure Machado on a deal with an opt-out after Year 3? Cause they don't have the money and will eventually have to extend Lindor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 1 minute ago, caulfield12 said: Why didn’t the Indians just keep Alonso and use him to secure Machado on a deal with an opt-out after Year 3? The team trying to shed money signs Machado? Lol 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, fathom said: Something else to consider....if JR or others in the org had reservations about Manny's attitude, bringing in Alonso might be a good way to help keep him in line. The only bad part about signing Machado will be having to read nightengale’s “disappointed gym teacher” tweets about his effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstar Lamar Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 I get along well with my brother he n laws but if i were in my 20s with unlimited income and alone in a fun city, I wouldn’t be looking to hang out with them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 (edited) Has there ever been a time in MLB history where just TWO players with $500+ million in combined contract value were brought in over one offseason? Edited December 15, 2018 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 1 minute ago, caulfield12 said: Has there ever been a time in MLB history where just two players with $500+ million in contract value were brought in over one offseason? No. I don't believe a team has signed one to that amount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, TheTruth05 said: The team trying to shed money signs Machado? Lol You’re forgetting they’ve already cleared Gomes, Encarnacion, Miller, Allen, Brantley, Alonso....adding back Santana. Kluber will be another huge salary to clear. Edited December 15, 2018 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxwinner Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, 103 mph screwball said: I think we are getting both. Getting one increases the chance of getting the other. Sox will overpay. The y have to. But so what! Make it back on better TV deal. Mr Reinsdorf is 83! Everyone is sick of losing. Going for it! I really don't think they want to play with each other. Especially with the comments from boras about Bryce wanting to build his own brand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFirebird Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, fathom said: all it does when people say he's not good is make it so much more obvious what's going on Do you know something that the rest of us don't know? 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 1 minute ago, iamshack said: This is idiotic, but does them signing Machado help convince Harper? Idiotic? If we have the highest offer on the table right now for Harper, you don’t think Boras would be nervous as fuck that we just traded for Manny’s brother in law? Us being out of the Harper sweepstakes is a huge blow to Boras’ negotiationing leverage. And this is a sport in which agents & teams leak shit all the time to create misdirection or improve their negotiationing position. Trading for Alonso is a tangible move that makes zero sense outside of a potential Machado signing. If you’re Boras, how else do you process this trade? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Has there ever been a time in MLB history where just two players with $500+ million in contract value were brought in over one offseason? Caulfield do you really think someone needs to be a historian to answer that? That could have only happened in line the last 5 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 1 minute ago, caulfield12 said: You’re forgetting they’ve already cleared Gomes, Encarnacion, Miller, Allen, Brantley, Alonso.... And yet we’re still shopping Kluber/Bauer after those moves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: This puts us in a position of power, especially because our meeting with Machado is on Monday. Harper and Boras have just been sitting on our offer but now the pressure is on them and not us. If they want to risk losing their best (monetary) offer, so be it. Exactly, I really think this move serves two functions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, 103 mph screwball said: I think we are getting both. Getting one increases the chance of getting the other. Sox will overpay. The y have to. But so what! Make it back on better TV deal. Mr Reinsdorf is 83! Everyone is sick of losing. Going for it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 So Merkins tweet yesterday about wife’s family location makes a little bit more sense now 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFirebird Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Just now, beckham15 said: So Merkins tweet yesterday about wife’s family location makes a little bit more sense now Wow...great pull. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Winter meetings are done, but the Indians aren’t done trading. Late Friday night they traded first baseman Yonder Alonso to the AL Central rival Chicago White Sox for minor league outfielder Alex Call. The trade follows the Indians acquisition of first basemen Carlos Santana and Jake Bauers on Friday in a three-team deal with Seattle and Tampa Bay. The Indians sent Edwin Encarnacion and a compensatory draft pick to the Mariners for Santana. They acquired Bauers, who can also play left and right field, for Yandy Diaz from the Rays. As soon as that deal was made, it seemed as if Alonso would be next. Alonso signed a two-year $16 million deal with the Indians last December. He will make $8 million in 2019 with vesting club option for 2020 worth $9 million with a $1 million buyout. Alonso hit .250 last season with 23 homers and 83 RBI last season. He appeared in 145 games, finishing second among AL first baseman with 81 RBI. Alonso faded in the second half, hitting .238 (51-for-214) with 10 homers and 30 RBI in 60 games. This Indians, who are trying to gain payroll flexibility, have traded Yan Gomes, Encarnacion, Diaz and Alonso since Nov. 30. For the lyrically inclined, you’ve probably already realized that the Indians have traded Yan, Yandy and Yonder in an extremely short period of time. Gomes was scheduled to make $7 million in 2019, Yandy was just over the big-league minimum of $555,000, while Yonder was scheduled to make $9 million in 2019. They’ve also taken the two years left on Santana’s contract at $35 million, while trading away Encarnacion and they $25 million he’s owed -- $20 million in 2019 plus a $5 million buyout on his club option in 2020. The Indians and White Sox traditionally don’t do much business. This is the first trade between the teams since the Indians since catcher-first baseman Matt Merullo to Chicago for outfielder Ken Ramos on March 30, 1994. Call, 24, played at Class A WInston-Salem and Class AA Birmingham last season. He hit a combined .248 (107-for-431) with 28 doubles, four triples, 12 homers and 58 RBI in 123 games. He entered last season and Chicago’s 21st ranked prospect according to Baseball America. He was Chicago’s third round pick in the 2016 draft out of Ball State University. That the Indians received just a minor league outfielder for Alonso in all likelihood means the White Sox are assuming the bulk, if not all, of his contract. Chicago may have had an ulterior motive to make this deal. They are pursuing shortstop Manny Machado, who is Alonso’s brother-in-law. The Indians 40-man roster stands at 38 players. cleveland.com Paul Hoynes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, BFirebird said: Do you know something that the rest of us don't know? 😉 of course not, but if you would have asked me when I woke up this morning what the best sign would have been that the Sox had a chance with Machado, it would have been trading for Yonder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 1 minute ago, beckham15 said: So Merkins tweet yesterday about wife’s family location makes a little bit more sense now Nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elwood5892 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 1 minute ago, beckham15 said: So Merkins tweet yesterday about wife’s family location makes a little bit more sense now Rick Hahn you little sneaky sneak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 1 minute ago, beckham15 said: So Merkins tweet yesterday about wife’s family location makes a little bit more sense now Dam dude look at you. Great find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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