caulfield12 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Someone better check who has Reinsdorf’s power of attorney right now when you start talking about $600-800 million committed for just two players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jerksticks said: Kinda pathetic if we signed his family in order to say “hey we signed yonder for you.” Kinds creepy actually. I hope that’s not what this is. Ha, I’m not gonna lie this has crossed my mind: ”If you don’t sign we’ll bury your brother on the bench!” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Just now, bmags said: Right this is articulating the down side well. This asset happens to align with the most redundant part of our fringe-ready prospects. That's the thing, on the surface, this move makes very little sense given who they already have. That should be seen as a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: I know it's Nightengale, but nobody comments on the idea that we want to pull a Phillies and sign both of the whales? Given that he's usually a FO mouthpiece, I haven't been able to figure out why they wanted him to tweet that. It’s interesting maybe he’s just speculating.....but I’m just hoping they land one of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 I understand what raBBit is saying, Sox are swinging for the fences and thats great but also this is the FO who ultimately put Sox in the position of not being top FA destination. (If so happens they sign elsewhere for less money) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Does Abreu even have a desire to DH? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, South Sider said: I dont understand because rabbit is saying moves like this are just so the Sox can have a seat at the table and appear to be suitable destinations for Manny. He will give us Monday to make our spiel and make us feel good but in the end he will go to the Yankees like most top FAs ever have done. I don’t think raBBit is saying that. From what I can tell, all he’s trying to say is the Sox pulled out all the stops to land one of these guys and if they come up short people will forget that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Just now, justBLAZE said: I'd love to see White Sox official word on this trade with words from Hahn. "As we move forward in the rebuild, it's important that we acquire veteran leadership. Yonder brings left handed power that should flourish at the Cell and he's familiar with Ricky from his Padres days and will be a good mentor to our young players. We will continue to look for creative ways in which to acquire premium assets without losing sight of our long-term flexibility" 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, fathom said: I think it's because so many people got obsessed with Harper (who still could be in play), but every sign besides what was reported in the media is that Machado has always been their main target. I know most of us don't trust the front office, but Hahn would have to be a true idiot to do this deal without talking with Manny's agent beforehand. I agree with you that this might have been something that was shared with us as something that would increase our chances. But to be honest, I wouldn’t put it past them to have just taken a risk and done it without provocation. We’re talking $350m here folks. This is $9m. It’s nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, bmags said: Ha, I’m not gonna lie this has crossed my mind: ”If you don’t sign we’ll bury your brother on the bench!” Right??! but then again if the families are super close then maybe they want to live in the same city. If we traded for Machado first then maybe the Indians would have charged us more for Alonso. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, daggins said: I mean, they can try, but they're going to be stuck with a less flexible, more expensive roster with less prospects and no Harper/Machado. I don’t understand what you’re trying to say here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, bmags said: Right this is articulating the down side well. This asset happens to align with the most redundant part of our fringe-ready prospects. But, it is anathema to our strategy overall so it’s certainly a big, positive story on the Machado front. They’ll be stuck with a more expensive roster? Really? There is no downside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elwood5892 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 So how did the Stadium group get this scoop? They were the ones that posted the Harper in the White Sox picture right? The one Kopech was commenting on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 So does this mean instead of a 100 losses it will be 98? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Yeah, I don’t get the gloom. What if they hold onto Abreu until this situation is resolved? Can probably flip Alonso or worst case eat a small amount and ship him. We’re not taking on an anchor hahaha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Just now, elwood5892 said: So how did the Stadium group get this scoop? They were the ones that posted the Harper in the White Sox picture right? The one Kopech was commenting on. Reinsdorf owns the company I believe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Just now, Jerksticks said: Right??! but then again if the families are super close then maybe they want to live in the same city. If we traded for Machado first then maybe the Indians would have charged us more for Alonso. if the Sox thought it would marginally help them, why not just mention it to Manny as something they could do to entice him if he agrees to go there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Well, just like the Bulls never landing a whale and turning into a dumpster fire, what SHOULD the fans do if they strike out, clamor for a Hahn statue at 35th and Shields when he’s the one largely responsible for creating this Hail Mary desperation play in the first place in order to save his job? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted December 15, 2018 Author Share Posted December 15, 2018 Despite raBBit's tweeting, and he does know his shit, why would anything that happened today lessen our chances of getting one of the big FA's? We may very well strike out, but the chances didn't get any worse tonight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
103 mph screwball Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Alonso has value! It’s not like the Sox gave Drake a contract to keep LaRoche happy. Alonso is a left handed bat with pop. PLUS his brother in law and friend might want to play with him. PLUS he might be a good influence on Machado. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elwood5892 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Just now, Jose Abreu said: Reinsdorf owns the company I believe Ok. I thought I heard that on the radio the other day. Interesting use of that twitter account then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, South Sider said: I dont understand because rabbit is saying moves like this are just so the Sox can have a seat at the table and appear to be suitable destinations for Manny. He will give us Monday to make our spiel and make us feel good but in the end he will go to the Yankees like most top FAs ever have done. If rabbit is correct and the Sox really had no chance despite their best efforts. It would mean their best efforts aren’t good enough. Time to change the regime. Again, while Alonso is pretty mediocre, it is hard to imagine the White Sox would trade for him and help out a division rival, even if it is only slightly, if they didn’t have a really good idea of its ultimate effect. Edited December 15, 2018 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Just now, caulfield12 said: Well, just like the Bulls never landing a whale and turning into a dumpster fire, what SHOULD the fans do if they strike out, clamor for a Hahn statue at 35th and Shields when he’s the one largely responsible for creating this Hail Mary desperation play in the first place in order to save his job? well no one will go to games this year outside of opening day, Eloy debut, Cubs games and bobblehead giveaways. If 2019 looks like 2018, Hahn is probably fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Just now, fathom said: if the Sox thought it would marginally help them, why not just mention it to Manny as something they could do to entice him if he agrees to go there? Exactly...there was a simultaneous league-wide run on Alonso? Well, not according to what we gave up in talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Doesn't Alonso kind of kill the Sox? Too lazy to look up splits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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