southsider2k5 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 minute ago, GreenSox said: I'm not sure exactly what you are saying here, but at a 3% interest rate (pretty conservative) 7/300 is about the same total money as 10/330. Only if Manny Machado quits baseball at 33 and doesn't earn a penny in those last 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 If these guys are dead set on being free agents again at age of 30, why not get the most you can in a front loaded deal during those 4 years? To this day it's why I think the Dodgers and Cubs have a great shot at Harper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, GreenSox said: I'm not sure exactly what you are saying here, but at a 3% interest rate (pretty conservative) 7/300 is about the same total money as 10/330. How did you calculate this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, GreenSox said: I'm not sure exactly what you are saying here, but at a 3% interest rate (pretty conservative) 7/300 is about the same total money as 10/330. What that means is that the cost to the white Sox of those last 3 years is very small and it would be idiotic not to offer them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 19 minutes ago, bmags said: How did you calculate this? Incorrectly; on recalculation, around a 5% rate equates the two. The risk-free rate will likely be below 5%; still there is other risk in waiting for your money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greek-konerko Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Omg cant take it this anymore. I stay awake at nights here in greece waiting machado /harper news. This has to come to an end. I go to work everyday sleepless😠 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peavy44 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Greek-konerko said: Omg cant take it this anymore. I stay awake at nights here in greece waiting machado /harper news. This has to come to an end. I go to work everyday sleepless😠 You need get some sleep bud Harper won't sign til feb and Machado maybe not Jan 15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, GreenSox said: Incorrectly; on recalculation, around a 5% rate equates the two. The risk-free rate will likely be below 5%; still there is other risk in waiting for your money Again, only if Machado doesn't use those open 3 years on the end of the deal to earn any money. If he earns something those three years, the equation skews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Just now, southsider2k5 said: Again, only if Machado doesn't use those open 3 years on the end of the deal to earn any money. If he earns something those three years, the equation skews. If it skews, it skews in favor of the 7/300 over the 10/330. The present value of the income from the extra 3 years can be added to the 7/300. If a player is going to put his money into CDs, then 10/330 is better. If he's a decent investor, 7/300 is no worse, and probably better. You get your money earlier, invest it and earn more in investment returns than the present value of the extra $30 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, GreenSox said: If it skews, it skews in favor of the 7/300 over the 10/330. The present value of the income from the extra 3 years can be added to the 7/300. If a player is going to put his money into CDs, then 10/330 is better. If he's a decent investor, 7/300 is no worse, and probably better. You get your money earlier, invest it and earn more in investment returns than the present value of the extra $30 million. At 3% compounding 7/300 turns into $327.8 million by year 10. If the player earns any money at all in those 3 years it weights towards the 7/300 more heavily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 I know what's gonna happen... Sox will announce the deal soxfest week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: At 3% compounding 7/300 turns into $327.8 million by year 10. If the player earns any money at all in those 3 years it weights towards the 7/300 more heavily. Agree I guess i misunderstood your earlier post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peavy44 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, JoshPR said: I know what's gonna happen... Sox will announce the deal soxfest week There no way it's not leak before the soxfest no one can keep secrets on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 19 minutes ago, peavy44 said: There no way it's not leak before the soxfest no one can keep secrets on the internet. Relax brother it was a wise crack. I wasn't serious at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 2 hours ago, aeichhor said: Anyone give a listen and pass along info?Cant get iTunes on my phone Usually I save this to get me through my boring job, but I’ll let you know in a bit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, peavy44 said: There no way it's not leak before the soxfest no one can keep secrets on the internet. Secret secrets are no fun. Secret secrets hurt someone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 7 hours ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: Usually I save this to get me through my boring job, but I’ll let you know in a bit. There was no Machado talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 6 hours ago, Heads22 said: Secret secrets are no fun. Secret secrets hurt someone. So you know who turned out to be kind of a creep? Ben Franklin. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Supposedly David Vassegh, a Dodgers insider, had this to say last night on his podcast: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HakunaMachado Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 10 minutes ago, fathom said: Supposedly David Vassegh, a Dodgers insider, had this to say last night on his podcast: What? A good sign????? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 13 minutes ago, fathom said: Supposedly David Vassegh, a Dodgers insider, had this to say last night on his podcast: Does that mean he's leaning? Because he's currently thinking of choosing 2 other teams as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 19 minutes ago, fathom said: Supposedly David Vassegh, a Dodgers insider, had this to say last night on his podcast: Hallelujah some good news for a chance....taking it with a grain of salt still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 "I talked to someone today that's very close to Machado and he thinks he's signing with the White Sox" word for word what the guy said on the podcast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 minute ago, fathom said: "I talked to someone today that's very close to Machado and he thinks he's signing with the White Sox" word for word what the guy said on the podcast how reputable is this guy Fathom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
default Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, TheTruth05 said: how reputable is this guy Fathom? And what's his Q score? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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