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Machado: Update - Manny, do you officially like us?

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10 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

When the Bulls lost a coin flip and wound up with David Greenwood instead of Magic, that stung. But had they won that flip, they never would have been bad enough to draft Jordan

 

So maybe we will someday look back and think missing out on Manny opened a door to something better. But right now it feels like White Sox  business as usual.

 

 

I really want the Sox to get Manny. With that said, him being on the Sox could be a total disaster if they struggle a few years. It’s also funny to think of Ricky micromanaging Manny like he’s a high school softball player.

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57 minutes ago, fathom said:

Who’s to say Yonder doesn’t know by now?  

Well if it’s true I’m sure Yonder knows already and he ended up telling the Sox it’s a no go and now this is where the encarnacion rumors started floating about 

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26 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said:

You'd think Clark's tweet would be mentioned by the Rosenthal's and Heyman's of the world by now if it were true.

How would they be able to comment if they didn’t talk to that same player?

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27 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said:

You'd think Clark's tweet would be mentioned by the Rosenthal's and Heyman's of the world by now if it were true.

If they could confirm it.

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Well I’ve always felt that it the Sox were going to land one of the big two it was going to be Machado, if he is indeed off the board we need to back up the truck for Harper and call it a day.

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32 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said:

You'd think Clark's tweet would be mentioned by the Rosenthal's and Heyman's of the world by now if it were true.

Not really if they can't confirm it.

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7 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said:

Not really if they can't confirm it.

 If they can confirm it , fine. . If Clark won't give them info to confirm, it basically puts us back to waiting and hoping it isn't true. I'm good with that.

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Would it make anyone feel better if someone who was signed by a team helped recruit another player who then actually signed with the same team ?

New second baseman Jonathan Schoop, who signed with the Twins on Dec. 6, knows Cruz from their one season together with Baltimore in 2014 — when Cruz led the American League with 40 home runs.

Schoop, like a savvy hitter, sold Cruz on joining the Twins, a team that went 78-84 last season but still has emerging talent. He also sold the Twins on Cruz, telling them about how the veteran slugger was a great influence on him and another young Orioles infielder, Manny Machado.
 

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On 12/28/2018 at 3:07 PM, fathom said:

Sox can have a good offer and Manny takes less for the Yankees and it wouldn’t mean that the Sox were being cheap.  No one is saying he signs with Yankees for 15 mil a year.

It's possible Manny takes less to play for the Yankees but somehow I think their offer is going to top everyone's. The questions then would be what did the Sox offer? How much less? and were they given a chance to match or beat the Yankees offer in the negotiations.

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So this Dick Clark guy may have just confused the “leaning toward the Yankees” report  to it actually going down? Perhaps that’s what Machados former teammate just reiterated back to Dick Clark? I think it might be a case of the ‘ol “leaning toward” and “actually signing” confusion. Because we all know, Machado first preference is NY, but let’s be real... it’s all about the $$$$. 

 

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Just now, GreatScott82 said:

So this Dick Clark guy maybe have just confused the “leaning toward the Yankees” report  to it actually going down? Perhaps that’s what Machados former teammate just reiterated back to Dick Clark? I think it might be a case of the ‘ol “leaning toward” and “actually signing” confusion. Because we all know, Machado first preference is NY, but let’s be real... it’s all about the $$$$. 

 

No, sure seems like a teammate/friend told him Manny is signing with the Yankees next week.  Clark isn’t an idiot, as he even retweeted the story again in the last hour 

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3 minutes ago, fathom said:

No, sure seems like a teammate/friend told him Manny is signing with the Yankees next week.  Clark isn’t an idiot, as he even retweeted the story again in the last hour 

Yeah he doubled down on it saying the rivalry between the yanks and red Sox are going to be even crazier now with Machado 

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7 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

It's possible Manny takes less to play for the Yankees but somehow I think their offer is going to top everyone's. The questions then would be what did the Sox offer? How much less? and were they given a chance to match or beat the Yankees offer in the negotiations.

Either way it sucks. If they didn’t make the high bid, that is so White Sox. If they offered $50 million more and he turned that down, that has to start the alarms as well.

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2 minutes ago, NCsoxfan said:

Look the Sox can’t make a guy come here. As long as they gave it a strong run, what else can you do? Move on...

Why? It's not over unless you believe Clark.

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Just now, South Side Fireworks Man said:

Sox better have beaten the next highest offer by at least 20% or they aren't really serious about luring a top free agent to sign here.

 

That's just ridiculous. I agree that they should have the top offer, but by 20%? That's a lot.

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6 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

Either way it sucks. If they didn’t make the high bid, that is so White Sox. If they offered $50 million more and he turned that down, that has to start the alarms as well.

Yeah. It would pretty much signal to never have hope in landing a huge free agent, unless one happens to be from the area and was a huge fan growing up.

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1 minute ago, South Side Fireworks Man said:

Sox better have beaten the next highest offer by at least 20% or they aren't really serious about luring a top free agent to sign here.

 

Or have an incredibly inflated view of how players view the culture and prestige of the organization.

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4 minutes ago, South Side Fireworks Man said:

Sox better have beaten the next highest offer by at least 20% or they aren't really serious about luring a top free agent to sign here.

 

We've seen more than a few cases where there was no one close to within 20%. ARod, Zito, Hosmer immediately come to mind. If it takes an extra $20 million of bidding against ourselves to win one of these guys, f*** it that's what needs to happen. 

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Just now, Balta1701 said:

We've seen more than a few cases where there was no one close to within 20%. ARod, Zito, Hosmer immediately come to mind. If it takes an extra $20 million of bidding against ourselves to win one of these guys, f*** it that's what needs to happen. 

If you think about it, it’s an extra 2-2.5 million a year. More than worth it for not being able to afford an incredible player like James McCann.

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3 minutes ago, fathom said:

If you think about it, it’s an extra 2-2.5 million a year. More than worth it for not being able to afford an incredible player like James McCann.

Assuming Machado signs with the Yankees for ~$35MM AAV, a 20% premium is $7MM AAV. That’s significant.

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