Dick Allen Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 8 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: I can't make you believe or not believe him, but I think that the reactions of Orioles fans who are familiar with Clark speak volumes. This is a guy who has tweeted out rumors (on a smaller scale) in the past and deleted them when they are wrong. He did leave up the Markakis one which he got wrong, which I suppose (?) I give him credit for? Anyway, it's fine if you think he could be right, I just don't appreciate when other people feel the need to mock those who don't believe Clark, especially given his track record. So he’s not unlike Bruce Levine, Phil Rogers, Bob Nightengale, any White Sox beat reporter. They all get slammed here, yet we have numerous threads that are based on their reporting. There really isn’t one guy who hasn’t been slammed before. People get things wrong, but this guy is putting his blogging or whatever he does career on the line with his tweet. Maybe to him it’s worth the risk , but I really don’t see what ultimately he gains by being right here. It won’t put him on a national stage and make him millions. Being wrong will basically ruin this portion of his life. That is why I believe he is telling the truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 I mean if Dan Clark is blocked by Ken Rosenthal, how many other national guys block him? Maybe that’s the reason for silence. That plus it being 24 hours of nothing really does make me hopeful. i also just think Yankees love DiDi, and may think it’s easier to find upgrades at 3b than the plus manny brings over DiDi in production/attitude wildcard. OTOH DiDi is older, but Stopgap SS seems to have some options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Just now, bmags said: I mean if Dan Clark is blocked by Ken Rosenthal, how many other national guys block him? Maybe that’s the reason for silence. That plus it being 24 hours of nothing really does make me hopeful. i also just think Yankees love DiDi, and may think it’s easier to find upgrades at 3b than the plus manny brings over DiDi in production/attitude wildcard. OTOH DiDi is older, but Stopgap SS seems to have some options If they didn’t sign Machado, I think the plan would be to sign a 2B and temporarily move Torres to SS. At least that is what Cashman said on MLBN during the Winter Meetings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 17 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: So he’s not unlike Bruce Levine, Phil Rogers, Bob Nightengale, any White Sox beat reporter. They all get slammed here, yet we have numerous threads that are based on their reporting. There really isn’t one guy who hasn’t been slammed before. People get things wrong, but this guy is putting his blogging or whatever he does career on the line with his tweet. Maybe to him it’s worth the risk , but I really don’t see what ultimately he gains by being right here. It won’t put him on a national stage and make him millions. Being wrong will basically ruin this portion of his life. That is why I believe he is telling the truth I’m not sure getting this wrong will have any impact on his career. He can simply say his source (who he already revealed to be a friend / former teammate) misunderstood the certainty of what Machado told them. Meanwhile, he’ll have gained some Twitter followers which long-term likely results in more clicks for his blog. Sure, his reputation will take a hit in the short-term, but look how many of you beleive hik despite all his previous misses / cover-ups. To me, there is nothing but upside for him here. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: I’m not sure getting this wrong will have any impact on his career. He can simply say his source (who he already revealed to be a friend / former teammate) misunderstood the certainty of what Machado told them. Meanwhile, he’ll have gained some Twitter followers which long-term likely results in more clicks for his blog. Sure, his reputation will take a hit in the short-term, but look how many of you beleive hik despite all his previous misses / cover-ups. To me, there is nothing but upside for him here. 100% this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 From what I am gathering around the interwebz most people agree that Dan Clarke doesn't have any 100% credible information, he's simply taking a stab here with a 1 in 3 chance with low long-term risks and high short term gains. It just doesn't make sense. I'm treating it as a non-story. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 28 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: If they didn’t sign Machado, I think the plan would be to sign a 2B and temporarily move Torres to SS. At least that is what Cashman said on MLBN during the Winter Meetings. Look at you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: You are really all in on this Dan Clark report huh. I enjoy the off season and all of its rumors and reports. This is fun to me. Dan could be wrong in his reporting and Machado still winds up going to the Yankees who knows. I’m not a Dan Clark groupie but I am not just looking at his recent tweets in a vacuum either. I’ve read his tweets for about a year now. He’s not some weirdo looking for notariety from my perspective. I know that’s how some view him and how many want to view him. Again, I hope he’s wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, iWiN4PreP said: From what I am gathering around the interwebz most people agree that Dan Clarke doesn't have any 100% credible information, he's simply taking a stab here with a 1 in 3 chance with low long-term risks and high short term gains. It just doesn't make sense. I'm treating it as a non-story. After reading more this morning I tend to be on this side of the fence. He was wrong about Markakis, JD Martinez and a Santana move as well. He seems to be just throwing the obvious at the wall hoping it sticks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Jose Abreu said: If you’re so sure that Clark is right and Machado has signed with the Yankees, why do you feel the need to continue posting in the Machado thread? LOL I’m sorry I didn’t know I have disqualified myself from posting in here because I tend to believe a report you don’t like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, shipps said: LOL I’m sorry I didn’t know I have disqualified myself from posting in here because I tend to believe a report you don’t like. All I meant is that if it’s over (to you) then it’s over, so there’s no need to make fun of people who don’t believe in Clark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Just now, Jose Abreu said: All I meant is that if it’s over (to you) then it’s over, so there’s no need to make fun of people who don’t believe in Clark. What I said was those who don’t believe Clark’s words yet will standby WSD report. If you don’t believe Clark it’s whatever. I am not making fun of that. I would expect it to be a polarizing rumor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 I don't think I've ever seen threads turn into a discussion of the reports and "sources" as opposed to discussion about the actual players or how the White Sox owner and FO suck before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, shipps said: What I said was those who don’t believe Clark’s words yet will standby WSD report. If you don’t believe Clark it’s whatever. I am not making fun of that. I would expect it to be a polarizing rumor. Got it, I may have misinterpreted your original comment then, my bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, shipps said: What I said was those who don’t believe Clark’s words yet will standby WSD report. If you don’t believe Clark it’s whatever. I am not making fun of that. I would expect it to be a polarizing rumor. Who in this thread is standing by WSD’s tweet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 Hopefully Manny announces his decision soon after New Year’s, because this shit is painful as fuck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 There are plenty of people here, honestly including me lol that consider Dave a source. I made that comment right after Dave tweeting his report, so no I was not referring to people directly in this thread. Dude believe what you want. I can give two craps about who you believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: Hopefully Manny announces his decision soon after New Year’s, because this shit is painful as fuck. Well him and Yonder are hanging out today still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 minute ago, shipps said: There are plenty of people here, honestly including me lol that consider Dave a source. I made that comment right after Dave tweeting his report, so no I was not referring to people directly in this thread. Dude believe what you want. I can give two craps about who you believe. Gotcha, didn’t realize you were speaking from a general perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 43 minutes ago, thxfrthmmrs said: Look at you. You're a stalker. If I bother you so much, the ignore feature is your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 57 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I’m not sure getting this wrong will have any impact on his career. He can simply say his source (who he already revealed to be a friend / former teammate) misunderstood the certainty of what Machado told them. Meanwhile, he’ll have gained some Twitter followers which long-term likely results in more clicks for his blog. Sure, his reputation will take a hit in the short-term, but look how many of you beleive hik despite all his previous misses / cover-ups. To me, there is nothing but upside for him here. He would be known as a joke. This is a big one. It isn't the Orioles signing someone to a minor league contract. There was a kid who was breaking a lot of info 2 or 3 years ago, and the main guys even gave him credit. Does anyone know if he is still doing his thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Dick Allen said: If they didn’t sign Machado, I think the plan would be to sign a 2B and temporarily move Torres to SS. At least that is what Cashman said on MLBN during the Winter Meetings. Yeah, that makes sense, the 2b market is stacked if you only care about one year production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 18 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: He would be known as a joke. This is a big one. It isn't the Orioles signing someone to a minor league contract. There was a kid who was breaking a lot of info 2 or 3 years ago, and the main guys even gave him credit. Does anyone know if he is still doing his thing? Cottillo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 14 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: He would be known as a joke. This is a big one. It isn't the Orioles signing someone to a minor league contract. There was a kid who was breaking a lot of info 2 or 3 years ago, and the main guys even gave him credit. Does anyone know if he is still doing his thing? I mean, he kind already is. Most Orioles think he is full of shit based on his track record, mlbtraderumors won’t even run his “report”, and one the most respected journalists (who local ties no less) has blocked him. I guess I don’t see a lot of downside for him, but maybe that’s just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 27 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: He would be known as a joke. This is a big one. It isn't the Orioles signing someone to a minor league contract. There was a kid who was breaking a lot of info 2 or 3 years ago, and the main guys even gave him credit. Does anyone know if he is still doing his thing? Chris Cotillo works as a Red Sox beat writer now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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