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I respect Sherman. He is a great reporter and spot on with Yankees info. Sorry Dan Clark, Machado isn’t signed

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Passan with some good stuff as well:

 

 

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2 minutes ago, bmags said:

@Sleepy Harold is as usual way better at getting the tweet threads than me. Props sir!

Thank you!  Took me a couple tries to get it all included but I figured it out. 

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2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Lol...this is absurd.  The team better be competing well before 2022 or Hahn has completely failed at his job.  Moncada & Lopez are free agents after the 2023 season & Kopech after 2024, so realistically the window will likely be 2020 to 2024.

What’s even more absurd is that he said 2022 would be the earliest if everything worked out PERFECTLY. To me, perfectly means Giloito and Lopez make huge strides this year and are solid middle of the rotation pieces. Moncada is an all star. Kopech and Cease are TOR starters in 2020. Rodon figures it all out and is the ace we’ve been waiting for. Robert and Madrigal fly through the system in 2019 and are all stars with the big league club in 2020. Palka turns into a stud DH. And our young bullpen arms become above average major leaguers. That is everything going perfectly. And that would mean we are a playoff team in 2020, even without Machado or Harper. 

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10 hours ago, ChiSox59 said:

Lol, wat? You come up with some really random shit. 

Haaaaaave you met Caulfield?

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10 hours ago, GREEDY said:

This is weird.

If Tulo can only sign for the minimum why be in a rush to sign?  

The Yankees must have guaranteed him a specific opportunity.  

Best chance at a playoff series?

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That Sherman assessment of the Yankees & Machado situation makes a ton of sense IMO and aligns with what we’ve been hearing.  The Yankees likely plan on making a “here it is” offer and see if Machado chases the money or the dream of playing in New York.  If true, I think we should all feel a little bit more optimistic because guys typically take the money.  Obviously no guarantees, but we should have a fighting chance if the money is there.

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3 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said:

What’s even more absurd is that he said 2022 would be the earliest if everything worked out PERFECTLY. To me, perfectly means Giloito and Lopez make huge strides this year and are solid middle of the rotation pieces. Moncada is an all star. Kopech and Cease are TOR starters in 2020. Rodon figures it all out and is the ace we’ve been waiting for. Robert and Madrigal fly through the system in 2019 and are all stars with the big league club in 2020. Palka turns into a stud DH. And our young bullpen arms become above average major leaguers. That is everything going perfectly. And that would mean we are a playoff team in 2020, even without Machado or Harper. 

Exactly, plus we’d have $100M+ in payroll to play with and a strong farm system to trade from.  Unless Moncada, Lopez, Rodon, Anderson & Eloy all suck next year, Hahn will have his eye on contending in 2020. 

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2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

That Sherman assessment of the Yankees & Machado situation makes a ton of sense IMO and aligns with what we’ve been hearing.  The Yankees likely plan on making a “here it is” offer and see if Machado chases the money or the dream of playing in New York.  If true, I think we should all feel a little bit more optimistic because guys typically take the money.  Obviously no guarantees, but we should have a fighting chance if the money is there.

It's starting to be clear that they want to solidify the infield, but really don't need to spend Machado money/years to do it, and don't seem to want to. The deal they would make with Machado probably makes him a free agent again at age 30/31. 10 years ago, this would have been great. However, with the way teams are pushing for youth, I don't think it is smart play to assume Machado would make more money in 4 or 5 years than he can make on one contract today. Plus he would get opt outs if he really is performing.

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7 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

That Sherman assessment of the Yankees & Machado situation makes a ton of sense IMO and aligns with what we’ve been hearing.  The Yankees likely plan on making a “here it is” offer and see if Machado chases the money or the dream of playing in New York.  If true, I think we should all feel a little bit more optimistic because guys typically take the money.  Obviously no guarantees, but we should have a fighting chance if the money is there.

Also that Passan bit on them having tried to get Profar. Clearly Yanks aren't going to live and die by getting Machado. Sox should be able to convincingly outbid them and I hope they do otherwise it's a huge opportunity lost, especially with how dogmatic yankees have been about contract length (correctly)

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31 minutes ago, BrianAnderson said:

Just typing that lineup.... really shows you how far the Sox are from competing... 2022 is the first year if everything works out perfectly. Likely 2023 or 2024.

2023 or 2024? There isn't a team in baseball that should take 7 or 8 seasons to rebuild no matter how dire the situation they start in, that is ridiculous. Even the most dire of situations should be able to turn it around within 5 seasons and we had a better starting off point than most rebuilds. If it takes that long then everything went wrong.

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I know some have mixed feelings about WSD, but check the end of this article out: https://www.barstoolsports.com/chicago/sources-me-troy-tulowitzki-signs-1-year-deal-with-yankees/

Says he has has more #scoopcity info later today. Might be nothing or completely unrelated to Machado, but could be interesting nonetheless.

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2 minutes ago, bmags said:

Also that Passan bit on them having tried to get Profar. Clearly Yanks aren't going to live and die by getting Machado. Sox should be able to convincingly outbid them and I hope they do otherwise it's a huge opportunity lost, especially with how dogmatic yankees have been about contract length (correctly)

To me, it all boils down to whether or not they want to trade Andujar. If they do, then none of these other acquisitions matter and Manny will end up at 3rd there.

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8 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said:

I know some have mixed feelings about WSD, but check the end of this article out: https://www.barstoolsports.com/chicago/sources-me-troy-tulowitzki-signs-1-year-deal-with-yankees/

Says he has has more #scoopcity info later today. Might be nothing or completely unrelated to Machado, but could be interesting nonetheless.

Wtf is wrong with that guy?  Of course you're not gonna get credit, he didn't say Tulo was signing just that they're interested in bringing him in.  Why does he try so hard to sound like the douchiest of douches?

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1 minute ago, bschmaranz said:

Wtf is wrong with that guy?  Of course you're not gonna get credit, he didn't say Tulo was signing just that they're interested in bringing him in.  Why does he try so hard to sound like the douchiest if douches?

Unlike Dan Clark, he has a reason.

He works for Barstool.

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1 minute ago, bschmaranz said:

Wtf is wrong with that guy?  Of course you're not gonna get credit, he didn't say Tulo was signing just that they're interested in bringing him in.  Why does he try so hard to sound like the douchiest if douches?

Right. He didn't break any news. He just said "Yankees are interested." Other teams were reportedly interested as well. Doesn't mean he was signing with them.

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6 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said:

I know some have mixed feelings about WSD, but check the end of this article out: https://www.barstoolsports.com/chicago/sources-me-troy-tulowitzki-signs-1-year-deal-with-yankees/

Says he has has more #scoopcity info later today. Might be nothing or completely unrelated to Machado, but could be interesting nonetheless.

Exact quote is "HUGE #ScoopCity announcement coming up at 12pm EST (eyeball emoji)." We'll see if he's just trying to get attention or actually has something.

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6 minutes ago, bschmaranz said:

Wtf is wrong with that guy?  Of course you're not gonna get credit, he didn't say Tulo was signing just that they're interested in bringing him in.  Why does he try so hard to sound like the douchiest of douches?

Because he is playing a "character" like most Barstool "personalities" 

 

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Just now, Tony said:

Because he is playing a "character" like most Barstool "personalities" 

 

What character is that, complete fricken tool?

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1 minute ago, bschmaranz said:

What character is that, complete fricken tool?

I'm beginning to question if it is pronounced "bar stool" or "bar's tool"?

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2 minutes ago, bschmaranz said:

What character is that, complete fricken tool?

You know who he is and we're talking about him, so whatever he's doing, it's working. It's the old wrestling mentality. Either cheer or boo. When you evoke no emotion, you're not doing it right. 

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Just now, Tony said:

You know who he is and we're talking about him, so whatever he's doing, it's working. It's the old wrestling mentality. Either cheer or boo. When you evoke no emotion, you're not doing it right. 

You just helped rekindle my man crush for Mr. Perfect.

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Just now, bschmaranz said:

You just helped rekindle my man crush for Mr. Perfect.

Anything I can do to help on a snowy Wednesday. 

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15 minutes ago, fathom said:

To me, it all boils down to whether or not they want to trade Andujar. If they do, then none of these other acquisitions matter and Manny will end up at 3rd there.

To counter that though, they may be better off holding onto Andujar one more year and then signing Arenado or Rendon to play 3B.  I don’t see why’d be in any rush to trade Andujar unless they feel the bat will regress.  IMO, his value increases substantially with a repeat performance offensively along with some moderate defensive gains.

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