LittleHurt05 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Over/under on first injury is June 1. Meh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/25658933/seattle-mariners-japanese-lefty-yusei-kikuchi-agree-four-year-deal I think Heyman was mistaken. Passan mentions no four year extension. He probably just misunderstood someone saying that when the player option is executed it’s a guaranteed 4 year contract, not an additional 4 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarava Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 That makes more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, bmags said: http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/25658933/seattle-mariners-japanese-lefty-yusei-kikuchi-agree-four-year-deal I think Heyman was mistaken. Passan mentions no four year extension. He probably just misunderstood someone saying that when the player option is executed it’s a guaranteed 4 year contract, not an additional 4 years. He also doesn’t mention anything about the terms of the deal. He obviously doesn’t know details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bmags Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, aeichhor said: This makes a lot more sense. edit: actually rereading his first tweet it actually was describing the 4 year extension as a team option. The first time I read the 4 year guarantee as a player option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 So anyway 4 for basically 60 is a little high but would have liked that deal for sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, bmags said: So anyway 4 for basically 60 is a little high but would have liked that deal for sox That doesn’t include the ~20% posting fee though right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, bmags said: So anyway 4 for basically 60 is a little high but would have liked that deal for sox How much higher would've the Sox needed to go to get him away from the west coast? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 1 minute ago, ptatc said: How much higher would've the Sox needed to go to get him away from the west coast? It was pretty widely rumored that he preferred the west coast, yes? I would have loved for the Sox to pounce on him at those numbers (+posting), but I'm not gonna be overly upset that he chose Seattle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, SouthWallace said: It was pretty widely rumored that he preferred the west coast, yes? I would have loved for the Sox to pounce on him at those numbers (+posting), but I'm not gonna be overly upset that he chose Seattle. That's what I remember. Most Asian players do because of the flights. If they are making enough money to go home on occasion, I don't blame them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 How much would someone have to pay me more to have a 12 hr direct flight home instead of a 9 hour direct flight home. Not that much more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Since this is the official signing record, I want to go back on record saying that with the injury history Japanese pitchers have coming to the states, and the fact he has already has some shoulder problems... I am glad this wasn't as at this commitment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Gload Fan Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 I'm curious to know if we were truly in on him. Not saying I did or didnt want him, just curious if they tried hard or even at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 12 hours ago, Eminor3rd said: Lame Don't worry I see a Tommy John or more likely shoulder surgery in his future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 43 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Don't worry I see a Tommy John or more likely shoulder surgery in his future. Yeah you’re probably right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sin city sox fan Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 I just don’t think we have the money to sign him, Machado, and Harper. We had to cut bait with one of these players 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, sin city sox fan said: I just don’t think we have the money to sign him, Machado, and Harper. We had to cut bait with one of these players Actually, that contract would have been fine to absorb, along with one of the Big 2. The problem is his health, and he’s a workhorse guy like Q...not a dominant, TOR type. There hasn’t been a single Japanese pitcher not to lose effectiveness after coming to MLB due to injury. Let say his upside is Maeda-like results. The only reason is you feel that there’s no opportunity for better FA pitchers next offseason (dubious)...the risk/reward is justified for a LHP or your marketing department, but the Pacific Northwest has always been a better home for Japanese pitchers. Our only connection was Tikatsu and Iguchi over a decade ago now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 I wouldn't have minded him, but yeah that's an awful lot of money for this particular pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 That's interesting to say the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Too rich for my blood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Is the 20% posting fee based on the GUARANTEED part of the deal, or the potential full 7 year value or the midpoint of those two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 51 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Is the 20% posting fee based on the GUARANTEED part of the deal, or the potential full 7 year value or the midpoint of those two? I would think guaranteed since the additional 4 years would technically be an extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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caulfield12 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 http://www.ussmariner.com/ This is how bleak it is for Mariners’ fans, their top message board still doesn’t have a mention of the signing. Local newspapers only care about Seattle and the Cowboys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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