fathom Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Orlando said: Bottom line for me is this: If the offer is 7/200 million and they refuse to move, they will not get Manny. Why not let fans think they offered 8/250? Bizarre to me and I don't see what they gain in the end. Lozano knows what they offered, why would this be Sox vs Lozano? If 7/200 is the highest they go, I see no reason for this fan base to support the organization anymore in all honesty. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 minute ago, whitesoxwinner said: They might not want the Phillies to know what they're exact numbers are and/or keep playing with the underdog card But claiming 7/200 to me would cause more problems. More teams to get involved and a bad taste in fan's mouths when they miss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Just now, fathom said: By denying it, they could cause other teams to question if Manny really does have 8/250 on the table or is 7/200 really the best he can get? Right, and as confident as I am right now, I do wonder if a 5/150 deal from the yankees came back in play if that isn't more attractive than a 7/200 and if Manny, tired of waiting for sox to budge, just signs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbo8 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 good thread 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 The Sox aren't denying the amount just the years. So is it safe to assume the contract is 7/$245M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotHahn Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, GREEDY said: If you give one player $35mm it only lessens the chances that you can or will be able to afford another like player, regardless of their friendship. True but you have Abreu 16 mil, Yonders 9 mil Nova 8 mil and Beef 8 mil coming off the books after 19/20. Not likely but possible. I know they probably need to pick up a 1 or 2 starter as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Just now, fathom said: If 7/200 is the highest they go, I see no reason for this fan base to support the organization anymore in all honesty. 100%. This bidding low and trying to sell free agents on the Sox doesn't work. It wont work until they are legit. They need to get with the times. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 I'm over this. I don't have the patience for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxwinner Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, fathom said: If 7/200 is the highest they go, I see no reason for this fan base to support the organization anymore in all honesty. Absolutely Fathom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sir Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 minute ago, bmags said: Right, and as confident as I am right now, I do wonder if a 5/150 deal from the yankees came back in play if that isn't more attractive than a 7/200 and if Manny, tired of waiting for sox to budge, just signs. Where does 7/200 come from? I don't think that's what we have on the table at all. The Yanks are not going to steal him away with 5/150. Keep the confidence- I feel like every time the wait goes on, everyone loses their minds and starts to panic. Don't worry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 minute ago, timbo8 said: good thread He raises a a great point of the optics of all this headspinning. Even if it's not remotely true I get very irritated over how adamant these reports from the local guys are. Almost feels like I'm being chided for getting my hopes up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 This is will wrapped by Wednesday, Friday at the latest. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, fathom said: If 7/200 is the highest they go, I see no reason for this fan base to support the organization anymore in all honesty. I agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxwinner Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said: The Sox aren't denying the amount just the years. So is it safe to assume the contract is 7/$245M I feel like those probably go hand in hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, timbo8 said: good thread Yes it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Lozano is using Passan/Gomez (likely telling the truth, but still being used) in order to get the Sox fan base to pressure Jerry on closing. Jerry, in turn, likes to turn around and prove his gall, that he doesnt give a shit about public perception. So he sends out Levine/Nightengale/Schouwen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
103 mph screwball Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 39 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said: 😂 Guys I'm losing my mind or I'm being punked, but that says CHI SOX Well played if it is a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, fathom said: If 7/200 is the highest they go, I see no reason for this fan base to support the organization anymore in all honesty. I hope the Sox step up. This organization needs to prove itself to the fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, Orlando said: But why would the Sox refute it and refute it so strongly? Even if Manny goes somewhere else, you would think the Sox look better if the public believes they put out a respectable offer. If they miss and the world thinks they offered 7 years 200, they look like idiots. They want to refute it strongly because if a team does try and beat their offer, the Sox would rather have a team push up against a 7/200 offer rather than an 8/250. When that call from Lozano comes and says "X team went past your offer, will you beat theirs?" you dont want their offer to be artificially inflated from the start. It just makes more ground for you to have to cover to get back to being the top offer 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockin Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) @Y2Jimmy0 You nailed it here. Edited January 14, 2019 by Sockin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth G.O.A.T. Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, timbo8 said: good thread Great thread. @Y2Jimmy0 is spot on. Edited January 14, 2019 by Stealth G.O.A.T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, Joshua Strong said: This is will wrapped by Wednesday, Friday at the latest. I thought it was going to be wrapped up by this past weekend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxwinner Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, bmags said: Yes it was. @Y2Jimmy0 Helluva job. Beautifully represented the fanbase in that thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GenericUserName Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, 103 mph screwball said: Guys I'm losing my mind or I'm being punked, but that says CHI SOX Well played if it is a joke. Its fake. He does have a pic of a coffee mug like that, but not secret message in the bubbles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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