Look at Ray Ray Run Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 30 minutes ago, GreenSox said: Then let's see him do something with Fulmer and Giolito. Sox pitching hasn't exactly been top shelf. He's not going to make everyone great. His work with Lopez, Quintana, and Sale was OK. He was pretty impressive with Kahnle and Swarzak. Cooper has more actual success stories (guys who sucked and then turned it around) than most any pitching coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 34 minutes ago, GreenSox said: Then let's see him do something with Fulmer and Giolito. Sox pitching hasn't exactly been top shelf. That's a cute pivot. Yesterday you were telling me that Fulmer was too important to trade. Today he sucks. Impressive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I think we can all agree Machado will probably play baseball this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanSoxFan Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, TitoMB345 said: I think we can all agree Machado will probably play baseball this year. I heard Vince McMahon is hiring for the XFL reboot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, ItsCalledComiskey said: I think this will all get wrapped up soon. And by soon I mean that the Earth is 4.5 billion years old, therefore days, months, and even years is soon. Ha ha so you're saying its gonna be a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, GermanSoxFan said: I heard Vince McMahon is hiring for the XFL reboot. I hear Ozzie Guillen is looking for work. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickofypres Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Maybe another team involved will speed up the process for the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 hours ago, fathom said: Cooper isn't a fan of all the new-aged stuff...he just wants to see his starters go 6 innings Of course the new-aged stuff is decidedly anti-sinker, in which case not teaching him a sinker makes Coop new school! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I'm surprised to hear that the new pitching philosophy does not like the sinker. What is the rationale behind that? I always considered it a very effective pitch, resulting in lots of ground balls. I remember when our family had our Atec Casey Pitching Machine, no one could ever square up sinkers. I'll have to Google this one, as I'm quite curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 hours ago, fathom said: Cooper isn't a fan of all the new-aged stuff...he just wants to see his starters go 6 innings Cooper is a big fan of sacrificing velocity for movement like using sinkers and cutters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 hours ago, fathom said: have you seen some of the underachievers JR has kept around due to loyalty? I'm sure Cooper has a job for life. An excellent coach. However, he will be a scapegoat at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 hours ago, GermanSoxFan said: That's something that is not up to Cooper, a front office lays out the plans for pitcher usage. I think Cooper's track record in having success with pitchers who were challenged, to say the least, to have any semblance of repeatable mechanics or command speaks for itself. If they do, that's a poor model. Of course, that could explain why so many pitchers are getting hurt the last few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Gload Fan Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Lillian said: I'm surprised to hear that the new pitching philosophy does not like the sinker. What is the rationale behind that? I always considered it a very effective pitch, resulting in lots of ground balls. I remember when our family had our Atec Casey Pitching Machine, no one could ever square up sinkers. I'll have to Google this one, as I'm quite curious. I really have zero stats or reasoning behind this, but I will just take a stab at it. Maybe (besides the fact that sinkers and sliders put strain on the elbow) it has to do with the new found desire to have crazy launch angles from hitters. Perhaps even if the pitch itself is harder to hit, the natural dip of the pitch might be a bad thing if a hitter displays serious launch angle and gets ahold of one. I'm just spitballin for the sake of conversation. Edited January 28, 2019 by Ross Gload Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Saufley Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, EL1 said: For real? Anyone know this guy? This is a joke right? Edited January 28, 2019 by Saufley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EL1 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, Saufley said: For real? Anyone know this guy? This is a joke right? No idea but he was calling the Joc trade which hasn’t happened yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdsox17 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I wish all of our faces could be seen as we read these posts. Would be quite the visual chronology. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I have no idea whether or not that has any validity at all but it would make an awful lot of sense considering the obvious hints they did drop at soxfest. That all stuck with me as someone who is excited to tell people awesome news but know they can’t quite yet. Too bad there really are no good sources with this. Hahn and company have kept the negotiations under wraps. I’m starting to believe the only people that know anything are the negotiators and player, that’s it. And maybe Alonso. Lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 12 minutes ago, EL1 said: Yeah right bud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Gload Fan Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) If you wanted people to believe you, you should've left out the Rosenthal part and not used a stupid-ass hashtag like that. Sarcasm does not display credibility. Next. Edited January 28, 2019 by Ross Gload Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 If the Joc trade gets announced in the next couple days and Laz Rivera is one of the guys we trade, then this guy will start to have some credibility. He’s the only one that has mentioned Laz, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black jack Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I believe! Now get to work on Harper. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EL1 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, JoshPR said: Yeah right bud Well I got Gomez to reply to it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toasty Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Has to be bogus. If it were real, it would have said #SuperSecretSpecialSauces 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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