Marky Mark Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Guys there is good news! You can happily tell Dan Clark or whatever his name was, how wrong he was now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 15 minutes ago, Tony said: A total failure They were probably so dead set on not negotiating against themselves and Probably thought the Padres were just in it to drive up the value. Well, this is one of the terrible White Sox moments no one can spin. A good friend of mine is cancelling his ticket plan and i dont blame him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulfly Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 What an utter joke. Unless, as I said before the main target was always Harper and they were trying to get Machado on the cheap. Bringing in his friends and not landing him is inexcusable. That's something you do AFTER YOU SIGN HIM. Hahn needs to be fired, immediately. Unless this means Harper to the Sox and that's where the money was going, they straight up lied to the entire fanbase by saying they were at the table and serious about landing either of these guys. Coming out and saying they couldn't go to 300, which was on the low end of the estimated contracts it would take to get these guys, is a fucking joke. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sir Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 minute ago, steveno89 said: Lozano totally called Hahn and informed him the Padres offered 10/300. Hahn knew he didn't have that kind of ammo and had to tap out. What a crushing blow to every Sox fan. This cheap organization is EXACTLY who we thought they were. Not deserving of a seat at the big boy table. Exactly. They were given the opportunity to beat it, just like I said they would. They failed. Still shouldn't bid against yourself, but you need to bid big when there's competition. They didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Have the terms of the deal been published? How will the $300M be structured? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxwinner Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 will the front office be introduced on opening day? If so, everyone needs to boo louder than they've ever booed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 minute ago, GermanSoxFan said: They had Yonder Alonso make calls to get season ticket holders to renew. Basically saying "yeah we gonna sign machado wink wink" While they weren't ready to top a 30mil aav. You can't make this shit up. Wait, is this actually true? They used Yonder Alonso to make phone calls to season ticket holders? Holy crap this gets more embarrassing by the second 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Tony said: Jesus Christ, Williams is talking about putting their best foot forward, effort, etc. NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR THAT. How do they not understand that? We’re the Bulls, plain and simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, fathom said: So it sounds like the Sox didn’t even get a chance to match if KW found out about the deal via twitter BS, they knew days ago if Moncada was playing 3B in spring training. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Waffleson Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Kennys talking out of both sides of his mouth... we shoulda let the blue jays take him when we had the chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Just now, TheFutureIsNear said: Wait, is this actually true? They used Yonder Alonso to make phone calls to season ticket holders? Holy crap this gets more embarrassing by the second Yes and he said there might be surprises Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Yeah I wanted the sox to sign machado more than anything, never wanted my concerns vindicated. But it's obvious there are signs of failure in the sox execution and way of operating that puts them at a disadvantage. When it's pointed out its met with a lot of resistance, but a lot of posters were right. The sox need to find big bats, and in search of big bats I am sure they are going to have tunnel vision. Like when they tried to fix the offensive output of catcher by ditching tyler flowers only to not fix the offensive output and open up a defensive issue. Which they tried to fix by ditching narvaez. I'm not surprised, but I'm still annoyed and upset from a fan perspective. This makes the rebuild unbelievably harder. It was just money. Now they need to use talent in the most efficient way possible. The sox should really question whether their judgment of value is completely deficient considering their output. Machado at 300 mill is too high, but alonso at 10, nova at 9, herrera at 8, all getting you output you should easily be able to create with 800k. We helped our rival and took on a .780 ops first baseman. SMDH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 I can't justify spending money on them this year. Maybe go to Eloy and Cease's debuts and that's it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, Soxbadger said: I disagree. I think had the Sox been serious in January about "stepping up" they likely get Machado before the Padres are involved. This is amateur hour. And Soxbadger is usually positive Next thing you know Ss2k5 will be joining us in bashing the Sox! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockin Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 I honestly wish I could cancel my season tickets at this point. This is 100% my last year supporting this organization. Crying fucking poor when you have no fucking payroll. Fuck this organization and fuck Jerry Reinsdorf. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 minute ago, TheFutureIsNear said: Wait, is this actually true? They used Yonder Alonso to make phone calls to season ticket holders? Holy crap this gets more embarrassing by the second There's video of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 minute ago, steveno89 said: Lozano totally called Hahn and informed him the Padres offered 10/300. Hahn knew he didn't have that kind of ammo and had to tap out. What a crushing blow to every Sox fan. This cheap organization is EXACTLY who we thought they were. Not deserving of a seat at the big boy table. 1 minute ago, Dick Allen said: Makes me think the Sox told Lozano their offer was as high as they could go, or he told them, there is a magic number, and they blew it off. 3 minutes ago, fathom said: So it sounds like the Sox didn’t even get a chance to match if KW found out about the deal via twitter Didn't Kenny just say that they couldn't have matched $300m? So what does it matter if the White Sox put their offer on the table and it wasn't close to good enough? If those clowns had sat on a $250 million offer all offseason saying they wouldn't go higher, and you got a $300 million offer, why waste your time with those clowns who said they won't go to that number even to get a deal done? Deal with the professional who put a fair offer on the table, not the clowns who thought they had a sneaky way to make the player take a $50 million discount. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tony said: Jesus Christ, Williams is talking about putting their best foot forward, effort, etc. NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR THAT. How do they not understand that? NO ONE CARES WHAT KENNY, HAHN OR JERRY WILL TRY TO SPIN. THIS IS PURE FAILURE TO GET THE JOB DONE. This is such a blow, I'm beside myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 lmfao. so who gets the locker between Alonso and Jay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SoxFan562004 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 13 minutes ago, GermanSoxFan said: The Chicago White Sox can't compete with the San Diego Padres financially. That is whats KW is saying. LOL They can, they choose not to, big difference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Makes me think the Sox told Lozano their offer was as high as they could go, or he told them, there is a magic number, and they blew it off. Kinda sounds like they were dicking him around with incentives too while Kenny talks out of both sides of his mouth here. This was the Sox derby to lose and they fuckin lost it. Once again, this is an epic fuckin failure in every fuckin way possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 They are delusional, they are so inept. Yet, they think they are so clever. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 How does Kenny Williams go out there and admit that they were shocked by the deal? I bet he thinks he is sounding like one of us disappointed fans, but he just sounds so incompetent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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