SonofaRoache Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Give me evidence of this organization ever cheating out on their own players and doing something like this. The Sox paid out bonuses they didnt owe after world series. Eloy Jimenez. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Just now, Whitesox27 said: I don't know why WSD and several others are angry at Machado. I would have done the same thing if I were in his position. We all need to be pissed at Reinsdorf, this is his fault. Dave has somehow convinced himself that the White Sox offer was better. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Just now, mqr said: Dave has somehow convinced himself that the White Sox offer was better. Math is hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 minute ago, mqr said: Dave has somehow convinced himself that the White Sox offer was better. He's delusional then. Guaranteed money is always better. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Whitesox27 said: I don't know why WSD and several others are angry at Machado. I would have done the same thing if I were in his position. We all need to be pissed at Reinsdorf, this is his fault. Just now, mqr said: Dave has somehow convinced himself that the White Sox offer was better. Because WSD doesnt know as much as he thinks he does. But hey, hes got all those inside sauces. Remember when insiders were a thing on Soxtalk? And they told all of us who had been here forever how much their sauces knew. In the end, my no sauces takes were right. Go figure. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 (edited) Definitely never mistook WSD for being smart, that's for sure. Edited February 19, 2019 by soxfan2014 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Give me evidence of this organization ever cheating out on their own players and doing something like this. The Sox paid out bonuses they didnt owe after world series. Easy, does Eloy count? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 18 minutes ago, fathom said: Manny also has bad knees potentially and isn’t willing to risk 50 million dollars on the knees staying strong. Yea it's called aging for a reason. You reach a peak physically then decline especially when you are at the top of the list in games played every year. it's the Frank Thomas diminishing skills clause just presented differently. God forbid the Sox FO ever gives in to a genuine difference maker .No they just have to have it their way. My way or the highway and Manny took that highway to SD. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Just now, Whitesox27 said: He's delusional then. Guaranteed money is always better. Behind Door #1 is 50 mill Behind Door number 2 you could make 20 more mill however you could make zero. Which one do you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Soxtalk is just special... ...the owner who offered to break every club record in spending by a huge margin is cheap. That's just dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perfect Vision Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Something else that shouldn't be lost here: Hahn, KW, and JR just got outplayed. From the sounds of it, they were confident that their offer last night would be enough. They made a critical error in judgment in thinking the Padres would not offer a guaranteed 10/300. If they had thought that, they might have made a better offer. Do we know for a fact that Lozano called Hahn this morning and gave him an opportunity to beat the Padres?? Didn't Kenny say he learned of the deal on twitter?? It might not have been cheapness that did them in, but incompetency in reading the Padres interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxwinner Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, reiks12 said: You can't fault Machado, it was a no brainer to pick going to SD. Fuck this front office, bunch of clowns Thought I would hate him if he didn't come here, but it's far from the truth. If he came here with both of those offers on the table, I would've questioned his intelligence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt574 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 22 minutes ago, T R U said: Its actually not a solid offer at all in comparison.. who would risk $50 million on how their body holds up when they reach 35/36 years old? Heres two offers, one is worth $300 million no matter what. The other is worth $250 million but could be $320 million in 9-10 years provided you age well. Which one are you taking, every time. Pretty easy to me. Didn’t say it was better than SD. Wish they would have just guaranteed it. Or at least guaranteed a 9th year to make it a more interesting choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 There are 2 good things about this (they arent that great but hey, this is my 1 optimistic post) 1) The Sox front office got valuable experience in negotiating for a premier talent. This will hopefully help them in the future. Instead of hemming and hawing for discounts, they get the deal done when they cane. 2) I hope its the end of the influx of "insiders." All of us outsiders may as well just speculate based on fact, reason and evidence. Because it turned out way more accurate than any insider was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Just now, Perfect Vision said: Something else that shouldn't be lost here: Hahn, KW, and JR just got outplayed. From the sounds of it, they were confident that their offer last night would be enough. They made a critical error in judgment in thinking the Padres would not offer a guaranteed 10/300. If they had thought that, they might have made a better offer. Do we know for a fact that Lozano called Hahn this morning and gave him an opportunity to beat the Padres?? Didn't Kenny say he learned of the deal on twitter?? It might not have been cheapness that did them in, but incompetency in reading the Padres interest. how did thry get outplayed. This wasnt a blind bid. The agent asked them to match. They said no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, AustinIllini said: Soxtalk is just special... ...the owner who offered to break every club record in spending by a huge margin is cheap. That's just dumb. I. Don't. Care. About. Offered. He wouldn't go where this was expected to go since last January. They were never serious and it's coincidence their name lasted this long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, AustinIllini said: Soxtalk is just special... ...the owner who offered to break every club record in spending by a huge margin is cheap. That's just dumb. And now it’s just an offer that wasn’t accepted meaning it’s a record of absolutely nothing. Oh, but you continue to bask in the glory that is being the runner-up on a future Hall of Fame free agent signing... you can categorize it up there with falling short on Alex Rodriguez when he signed with Texas! The Sox wanted Machado at their price and they got burned. They now look like epic failures and rightfully so. Edited February 19, 2019 by Machado2Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Just now, mqr said: I. Don't. Care. About. Offered. He wouldn't go where this was expected to go since last January. They were never serious and it's coincidence their name lasted this long. Sounds. Like. A. You. Problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Machado2Sox said: And now it’s just an offer that wasn’t accepted meaning it’s a record of absolutely nothing. Oh, but you continue to bask in the glory that is being the runner-up on a future Hall of Fame free agent signing... So basically you're telling me he's cheap because he wouldn't do ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING to get one player. Get real. lol. Change your username Edited February 19, 2019 by AustinIllini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxwinner Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 I'm officially very out on white sox Dave. What terrible takes by him today 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, AustinIllini said: Soxtalk is just special... ...the owner who offered to break every club record in spending by a huge margin is cheap. That's just dumb. And always finishes in a close second...great rallying cry, there. We were almost good enough, darn it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, AustinIllini said: Soxtalk is just special... ...the owner who offered to break every club record in spending by a huge margin is cheap. That's just dumb. The club record is so small to begin with because of said owner lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perfect Vision Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, southsideirish71 said: how did thry get outplayed. This wasnt a blind bid. The agent asked them to match. They said no. Kenny said he was shocked by the decision and thought the Sox had the high offer. Where was it reported that the agent today asked them to match? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 They lost out on what will be their best chance in likely what will end up being their past chance to sign a premier free agent in the past 50 years. All of the stars aligned for the Sox to sign Machado and they still lost because their offer was mediocre at best - they were $50 million less than the next highest bid. So yeah, Sox front office is trash and deserves to be ridiculed. Just wait til they try to make it up to the fans with garbage tier 2 and 3 FAs next year and likely trading for some bad contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, AustinIllini said: Soxtalk is just special... ...the owner who offered to break every club record in spending by a huge margin is cheap. That's just dumb. A lot easier to say you'll do something than actually do it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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