Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Living out of state, I can't listen to Chicago sports blab radio (obviously) but has the media been handing the Sox their collective ass? Or, are they back to irrelevant status? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Charlie Haeger's Knuckles said: Living out of state, I can't listen to Chicago sports blab radio (obviously) but has the media been handing the Sox their collective ass? Or, are they back to irrelevant status? Sports Blab has been ripping them a new asshole, beat writers not so much. Edited February 20, 2019 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Charlie Haeger's Knuckles said: Living out of state, I can't listen to Chicago sports blab radio (obviously) but has the media been handing the Sox their collective ass? Or, are they back to irrelevant status? I think if I were a talk show host I'd take the angle of "were the Sox ever really that serious about signing Manny or Harper?" They provided some hints that they were, but proof is in the pudding and the way this thing ended was awfully anticlimactic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centerfieldsixers Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 reading this message board its about 95 % pissed off. However a poll was conducted 59% thought San Diego overpaid, 51 % thoguht it was a wise addition of a superstar. and 36.65 percent thought the sox missed a unique opportunity. 32.02 thought it to be disappointing, and 31.33 think we dodged a bullet. So the National thought is better but listening to Passan, Bowden and a few others made me look for my paper bag last night 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Just now, centerfieldsixers said: reading this message board its about 95 % pissed off. However a poll was conducted 59% thought San Diego overpaid, 51 % thoguht it was a wise addition of a superstar. and 36.65 percent thought the sox missed a unique opportunity. 32.02 thought it to be disappointing, and 31.33 think we dodged a bullet. So the National thought is better but listening to Passan, Bowden and a few others made me look for my paper bag last night Idiots basing this off of his comments in playoffs and not running out the routine ground ball (who does?) for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centerfieldsixers Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 i'm sure Dan Clark is laughing at us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Keeps getting worse, as Padres didn’t even think they were getting him and were planning other pursuits https://mobile.twitter.com/usatodaysports/status/1098262296860741632 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centerfieldsixers Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Just now, soxfan2014 said: Idiots basing this off of his comments in playoffs and not running out the routine ground ball (who does?) for sure. yeah at this point we can only hope that he doesnt live up to the contract. Still dont make it feel any better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, fathom said: Keeps getting worse, as Padres didn’t even think they were getting him and were planning other pursuits https://mobile.twitter.com/usatodaysports/status/1098262296860741632 The Intellectuals in the Sox FO thought they were playing 4D chess lmao 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, centerfieldsixers said: yeah at this point we can only hope that he doesnt live up to the contract. Still dont make it feel any better I hope he turns into Babe Ruth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, fathom said: Keeps getting worse, as Padres didn’t even think they were getting him and were planning other pursuits https://mobile.twitter.com/usatodaysports/status/1098262296860741632 Maybe they can do us a solid and give RH and KW some ideas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 I hope Tatis and Machado win a series with SD, Anybody mad at Machado has their Black and Silver sunglasses on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Hard to be mad at Manny.. he has to make that money. Sox FO however.. fuck them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, TheTruth05 said: I hope Tatis and Machado win a series with SD, Anybody mad at Machado has their Black and Silver sunglasses on. I don't think anyone is mad at Machado, at least no one should be. This is 100% on the front office. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Just now, EvilJester99 said: Hard to be mad at Manny.. he has to make that money. Sox FO however.. fuck them Yep I bet he’s more surprised than anyone he didn’t get the Sox to match. This is such a colossal failure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, TheTruth05 said: The Intellectuals in the Sox FO thought they were playing 4D chess lmao the Sox really were playing 4D chess but for Machado it was just a game of checkers the whole time ("give me $300M guaranteed") 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 I'm glad they failed at getting that asshole. Yes, it's an organizational failure, but on the other hand, there's a better than 50/50 shot they would have regretted it in the future. The Sox need to develop pitchers, have Eloy be a superstar, and have Moncada and Anderson take steps forward at the plate. That would help make the Sox an attractive place to play for premium free agents. Until they can get that going on their own, players don't want to come to the Sox...and to a larger extent, the AL Central. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 1 minute ago, flavum said: I'm glad they failed at getting that asshole. Yes, it's an organizational failure, but on the other hand, there's a better than 50/50 shot they would have regretted it in the future. The Sox need to develop pitchers, have Eloy be a superstar, and have Moncada and Anderson take steps forward at the plate. That would help make the Sox an attractive place to play for premium free agents. Until they can get that going on their own, players don't want to come to the Sox...and to a larger extent, the AL Central. Man are you serious? Machado would be the perfect piece to go with the core going forward seeing how young he is and how the cheap the rest of the team could potentially be. They had Machado by the balls and they let him get away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, flavum said: I'm glad they failed at getting that asshole. Yes, it's an organizational failure, but on the other hand, there's a better than 50/50 shot they would have regretted it in the future. The Sox need to develop pitchers, have Eloy be a superstar, and have Moncada and Anderson take steps forward at the plate. That would help make the Sox an attractive place to play for premium free agents. Until they can get that going on their own, players don't want to come to the Sox...and to a larger extent, the AL Central. He went to the f***ing San Diego Padres. They're like 29th out of 30 teams in wins over the past 6 seasons. This isn't the NBA where teams are maneuvering around Larry Bird rights and hitting max contracts so they give up and join together. We literally tried making the setup for him attractive with all his friends around this year and lost to the bloody San Diego Padres because we didn't want to pay him fair market value. Players in MLB want to come where they are fairly paid. Full stop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, flavum said: I'm glad they failed at getting that asshole. Yes, it's an organizational failure, but on the other hand, there's a better than 50/50 shot they would have regretted it in the future. The Sox need to develop pitchers, have Eloy be a superstar, and have Moncada and Anderson take steps forward at the plate. That would help make the Sox an attractive place to play for premium free agents. Until they can get that going on their own, players don't want to come to the Sox...and to a larger extent, the AL Central. Players don't want to come here when they aren't given the best offer, I don't think playing in the AL Central would factor much into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Balta1701 said: It has come out from places other than the White Sox, it seems believable. Frankly, from KW's reaction yesterday I was surprised that their offer was that bad. I would 100% bet that the 7/$175 offer was real, maybe with some options at the end, and at the time Machado's side was asking for 10/$350 or something like that. So, the White Sox thought they were doing him a huge huge favor with an offer at $250. I would bet that the 7/$175 report was the offer we had on the table for the majority of this debacle. If we came right out with a 8/$250 and 2 options that could bring it to $320 I don't think it drags on for as long as it did, I think he would have signed after it was clear no one else was getting involved. I think no one else valued Machado in this upper range, just couldn't afford to add a huge contract, or didn't have the need for the player. The Phillies wanted to spend "stupid" money and even they balked at $300 million for Machado. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, flavum said: I'm glad they failed at getting that asshole. Yes, it's an organizational failure, but on the other hand, there's a better than 50/50 shot they would have regretted it in the future. The Sox need to develop pitchers, have Eloy be a superstar, and have Moncada and Anderson take steps forward at the plate. That would help make the Sox an attractive place to play for premium free agents. Until they can get that going on their own, players don't want to come to the Sox...and to a larger extent, the AL Central. In an ideal world yes. Problem is this is a once-in-a-generation free agent class so you make exceptions. They blew it instead and the options for the next few years are nowhere near as attractive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 1 minute ago, almagest said: In an ideal world yes. Problem is this is a once-in-a-generation free agent class so you make exceptions. They blew it instead and the options for the next few years are nowhere near as attractive. On top of that...all the cards fell correctly. The Red Sox are still paying for Sandoval. The Yankees are still paying for Ellsbury. The luxury tax is hitting teams. The Dodgers have a 3b and a SS and don't want to shift people out of positions to this extent. The teams that could have blown this out of the water were out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 the real dagger will be when its reported that the Chicago White Sox are on Manny's no-trade list. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 31 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: On top of that...all the cards fell correctly. The Red Sox are still paying for Sandoval. The Yankees are still paying for Ellsbury. The luxury tax is hitting teams. The Dodgers have a 3b and a SS and don't want to shift people out of positions to this extent. The teams that could have blown this out of the water were out. This angle is poor - he got 10 years and 300 million with a 5 year opt out. There were no "big boys" that were blowing that offer out of the water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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