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What would be the point of Hahn planting a low offer in the media? Who does that benefit? I get nervous when I see these low offers. I understand why you would want to put a high offer out there to potentially keep teams away. But a low number? That seems like it would make a bunch of teams want to enter negotiations.

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Parkman's posting patterns can sometimes be eyeroll-inducing but also oddly endearing at the same time.

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5 minutes ago, KnightsOnMintSt said:

What would be the point of Hahn planting a low offer in the media? Who does that benefit? I get nervous when I see these low offers. I understand why you would want to put a high offer out there to potentially keep teams away. But a low number? That seems like it would make a bunch of teams want to enter negotiations.

Cast doubt in the mind of Phillies that Lozano is being truthful to them. If he says Sox are offering 250 and media reports 200, then maybe Phillies don’t think they have to go as high as Lozano says they do.

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5 minutes ago, fathom said:

Cast doubt in the mind of Phillies that Lozano is being truthful to them. If he says Sox are offering 250 and media reports 200, then maybe Phillies don’t think they have to go as high as Lozano says they do.

It would make some sense if the Machado camp was actually leaning towards the Sox and didn't want the Phillies to have the best offer...which still doesn't quite make sense.

The Phillies offer $240~260 million and then the Sox swoop in again and beat that?

Or the Sox and Phillies are colluding to lower the market for both, knowing they can only sign one?  Dangerous.

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We could be in final offer stages and that could be why, like it’s been said previously if both offers are just about the same, Machado comes to us in my opinion with the Phillies turning towards Harper. 

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44 minutes ago, lostfan said:

Parkman's posting patterns can sometimes be eyeroll-inducing but also oddly endearing at the same time.

I wear my emotions on my sleeves, ok? This is my release where I don't have to put on the neurotypical show. I left the closet so to speak so I could actually be myself on here, which I wasn't earlier in my posting years. 

I have  roughly 3800 posts on this forum, have been a member since 11/2005 and I think I had around 5-600 posts as recently as 2013 or 2014. I've probably made like 70% of my posts in the last 2-3 years, since I came out of the closet. I know that has the connotation of being LGBTQ, but it is used in the autism community as well. 

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5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Tomorrow is Wednesday, maybe just maybe something finally happens.

That's the day RaBBit was betting on since it's KW's M.O.

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2 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

I wear my emotions on my sleeves, ok? This is my release where I don't have to put on the neurotypical show. I left the closet so to speak so I could actually be myself on here, which I wasn't earlier in my posting years. 

I have a good friend you remind me a lot of. He has trouble interpreting tone and moods sometimes but he would actually get offended if he perceived me as coddling him. Matter of fact you might be him. Did you see the video I just posted on Facebook? lol.

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33 minutes ago, Fuagman said:

Not manny related but kinda is after we get him and then Eloy is eventually called up. Delmonico’s gone right. Bench of McCann, Jay, Yolmer, Leury/rondon. 

We’ll lose half our female fan base w/o Matty D and Nicky D. 

Hopefully Yolmer, Kopech, Timmy and Moncada will be enough to carry the load there for now.

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8 minutes ago, SoxAce said:

That's the day RaBBit was betting on since it's KW's M.O.

Yup, just got to hope the recent smoke was leading up to something.

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6 minutes ago, SoxAce said:

That's the day RaBBit was betting on since it's KW's M.O.

This is true.  Wednesday makes sense for the most news coverage.  Monday and Tuesday rumors.  Wednesday morning maybe a new rumor.  Radio talks about it all day.  Wednesday afternoon just before the evening commute, big news hits.  Radio has breaking news. 6&10 pm TV news has plenty of time to get good stories.  Thursday newspaper headlines.  Interviews on the radio. A press conference.   White Sox Wednesday isn’t an accident.

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Basically someone who deals with the numbers of the contract. Not saying who but there are whispers that this was their plan all along. Supposedly they knew they had a really good grasp on Manny so they went hard at Harper at the beginning and let the Phillies spend more time on Manny and focus less on Harper. Now the Phillies are playing catch up. Possible endgame is Manny, Harper and a pitcher

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It has been relatively quiet on all fronts today in regards to Machado. Discounting the totally unbelievable reports from Bob, so that could be a plus.

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5 minutes ago, Gtrams42 said:

Basically someone who deals with the numbers of the contract. Not saying who but there are whispers that this was their plan all along. Supposedly they knew they had a really good grasp on Manny so they went hard at Harper at the beginning and let the Phillies spend more time on Manny and focus less on Harper. Now the Phillies are playing catch up. Possible endgame is Manny, Harper and a pitcher

REALLY?  When pitcher, I assume you mean Pomeranz/Gonzalez/Miley and not Dallas Keuchel.

If the final deals are for $275 million and $325 million, that still seems crazy for the White Sox, let alone adding a pitcher that will cost well more add the Manny's Muchachos Group that we added to the payrolls.

At least you're WAY out there on a ledge.  Maybe not Dan Clark over Acapulco, but pretty far outside the realm of probability/likelihood.

That's pretty pretty good, though.  We might have 1000 pages of threads in a week if that actually transpires.  It would be the feint of all feints to pull that off successfully.  Heck, books would be written about it for sports administration courses.

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3 minutes ago, Gtrams42 said:

Basically someone who deals with the numbers of the contract. Not saying who but there are whispers that this was their plan all along. Supposedly they knew they had a really good grasp on Manny so they went hard at Harper at the beginning and let the Phillies spend more time on Manny and focus less on Harper. Now the Phillies are playing catch up. Possible endgame is Manny, Harper and a pitcher

People may laugh at this but it actually would explain a lot about how the Sox have approached this offseason and it's financially viable.

That said, I doubt it happens, but if this is true regardless, kudos to the front office for the foresight (and hopefully at least partial execution). 

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4 minutes ago, Gtrams42 said:

Basically someone who deals with the numbers of the contract. Not saying who but there are whispers that this was their plan all along. Supposedly they knew they had a really good grasp on Manny so they went hard at Harper at the beginning and let the Phillies spend more time on Manny and focus less on Harper. Now the Phillies are playing catch up. Possible endgame is Manny, Harper and a pitcher

But now it seems like the Phillies are putting the full court press on Harper.

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20 minutes ago, lostfan said:

I have a good friend you remind me a lot of. He has trouble interpreting tone and moods sometimes but he would actually get offended if he perceived me as coddling him. Matter of fact you might be him. Did you see the video I just posted on Facebook? lol.

Nah, I'm in Chicago. You're in Maryland. We definitely don't know each other. 

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5 minutes ago, Gtrams42 said:

Basically someone who deals with the numbers of the contract. Not saying who but there are whispers that this was their plan all along. Supposedly they knew they had a really good grasp on Manny so they went hard at Harper at the beginning and let the Phillies spend more time on Manny and focus less on Harper. Now the Phillies are playing catch up. Possible endgame is Manny, Harper and a pitcher

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7 minutes ago, Gtrams42 said:

Basically someone who deals with the numbers of the contract. Not saying who but there are whispers that this was their plan all along. Supposedly they knew they had a really good grasp on Manny so they went hard at Harper at the beginning and let the Phillies spend more time on Manny and focus less on Harper. Now the Phillies are playing catch up. Possible endgame is Manny, Harper and a pitcher

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On 1/14/2019 at 4:13 PM, xSouthsider2 said:

Forgot to mention... Sorry, I have NO sources.

All you will get from me is my opinions. Opinions based on all my years as a Sox fan. During that time a few great times, especially 2005, something I had thought would NEVER happen in my lifetime. But I want MORE WS wins. No more Dybzinski falling on his ass with what would have been the winning run in 83, with Cy Young winner Lamarr Hoyt waiting to pitch game five and put us in the WS in 83. No more allowing those bastards in Toronto to steal Black Jack McDowell pitches and keep us out of the WS in 93. No more having a pitcher with no balls starting game one in 2008 and immediately losing a three run lead that Dewayne Wise gave us with a three run homer in the first. And no more losing two double headers to losing teams in September and blowing a pennant in 1967, and then starting 1968 with 12 straight LOSSES.

So, my opinion on Machado? We sign him for over $300 million "IF" Hahn and KW play their cards right. Can't mess this up. I hope they know this. They have put us in too deep to not succeed. We get neither "whale" and we look like losers to the rest of baseball. 

Just for the record it was 10 straight losses to open the 1968 season. let's not make it any worse than it was.

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Hopefully come spring training we have 2 whales leading the way for the young guys. Jerry is control of what happens good or bad

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Jayson Stark is tweeting that what he and Ken Rosenthal have heard consistently this week is that the Harper / Machado derby could drift into February before being resolved.

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11 minutes ago, Gtrams42 said:

Basically someone who deals with the numbers of the contract. Not saying who but there are whispers that this was their plan all along. Supposedly they knew they had a really good grasp on Manny so they went hard at Harper at the beginning and let the Phillies spend more time on Manny and focus less on Harper. Now the Phillies are playing catch up. Possible endgame is Manny, Harper and a pitcher

 

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