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No one has mentioned yet the reason for this 175 rumor yet. I don’t think it’s coming from Lozano’s side.

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Just now, peppers312 said:

but his trusted source contradicts Passan's report...

 

How does it contradict it?

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Honestly...in my humble opinion, I believe the biggest issue right now is the media and the lack of credible reports.  It's tough to make a case for or against owners with no truths to base it on.  Reports coming out are nearly 100 million dollars apart in reported value--depending on the "source."  I'm sure the players union will have their seat at the table with some firepower when the 2 sides eventually meet for labor discussions, but most of what makes it to us fans is straight-up bad reporting.  People having to "tweet" to stay relevant.  Many of us bite and start attacking teams and blaming them of collusion--I don't think that's responsible either.  Owners backing off on their offers is a natural response to an agent trying to create a bidding war.  It's not collusion--it's simply not falling for the agent's tactics.   

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1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Without question, because it means the Phillies aren’t bidding much more for Harper.  Unfortunately, it’s not going to happen and Machado will eventually get an AAV in the $30M to $35M range.

Why do I feel like I read this exact post a while ago?  Is this thread turning into the matrix? Or maybe like one of those never-ending staircases?

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1 minute ago, almagest said:

Do you look at the NBA and say "yes this is good for the players, the fans, the team employees and the owners"?

Uh, yeah.

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3 minutes ago, Saufley said:

BUT, what if it turns out to be true?

Then so be it. Things are beyond my control so no point in getting emotional over it.

Imho, JR didn't step up to the negotiating table to offer 8/175. Hahn could have done that. For all we know Hahn opened negotiations with that as a starting point and since then JR has taken over and now the 8/250 rumor surfaces. 

Not at all concerned.

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28 minutes ago, Quin said:

Let me get this straight...

Passan reports 8 years, Gomez reports $250M. Both are reputable and Passan is a top reporter.

Everyone dismisses it.

Olney, who laughed at the Sox signing either one, says 7/$175M and everyone takes it as gospel and writes think pieces about why the Sox are bad. 

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You can tell who has the bias of Reinsdorf=Scrooge McDuck by that. I don't want to believe it, but the best predictor of future results is past behavior, so I can't really fault them for that bias. 

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2 minutes ago, almagest said:

Do you look at the NBA and say "yes this is good for the players, the fans, the team employees and the owners"?

Considering it's exploded in popularity the lest 5-8 years, I would say so they have a pretty good thing going.

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3 minutes ago, hi8is said:

No one has mentioned yet the reason for this 175 rumor yet. I don’t think it’s coming from Lozano’s side.

I wouldn't have guessed so either but soxbadger has what i believe to be the most plausible motive for anyone to leak.

But it's just a weird leak that I have a hard time believing benefits anyone, maybe the phillies in that it just causes uncertainty.

edit: like maybe phillies float this, see the backlash, and go to manny and say "we would never waste your time with an offer as insulting as the white sox. Here's 8 for 250, we believe in you and don't try to just buy you off for discount by hiring your friends.:

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so we have had a few people tweet news about the contract offer.

who is the 1 st one to break the news?

nightengale

Passan

olney

rosenthal

Gomez

Heyman

Morosi

White SoX Dave

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1 minute ago, BigSexy23 said:

Buster Olney works for ESPN so I don't believe a word he says

So does Passan.

Just go off their track records 

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2 minutes ago, BlackSox13 said:

Then so be it. Things are beyond my control so no point in getting emotional over it.

Imho, JR didn't step up to the negotiating table to offer 8/175. Hahn could have done that. For all we know Hahn opened negotiations with that as a starting point and since then JR has taken over and now the 8/250 rumor surfaces. 

Not at all concerned.

I know. I just want it to all be done, as do many! Sitting through all this mess  is worse than going to buy a new car!

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Just now, centerfieldsixers said:

so we have had a few people tweet news about the contract offer.

who is the 1 st one to break the news?

nightengale

Passan

olney

rosenthal

Gomez

Heyman

Morosi

White SoX Dave

I'm gonna guess Heyman, Gomez, or Passan

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1 minute ago, centerfieldsixers said:

so we have had a few people tweet news about the contract offer.

who is the 1 st one to break the news?

nightengale

Passan

olney

rosenthal

Gomez

Heyman

Morosi

White SoX Dave

I like the prediction that it is the Stadium twitter account.

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1 minute ago, centerfieldsixers said:

so we have had a few people tweet news about the contract offer.

who is the 1 st one to break the news?

nightengale

Passan

olney

rosenthal

Gomez

Heyman

Morosi

White SoX Dave

As a White Sox fan I'm hoping its Gomez.

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1 minute ago, centerfieldsixers said:

so we have had a few people tweet news about the contract offer.

who is the 1 st one to break the news?

nightengale

Passan

olney

rosenthal

Gomez

Heyman

Morosi

White SoX Dave

Personally I hope they give it to merk.

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1 minute ago, centerfieldsixers said:

so we have had a few people tweet news about the contract offer.

who is the 1 st one to break the news?

nightengale

Passan

olney

rosenthal

Gomez

Heyman

Morosi

White SoX Dave

At least half of these guys haven't been more accurate than Dan Clark when it comes to Manny Machado. Which ones, we will find out in a day or a week or a month or two months.

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I still don't get who benefits from this twitter game. The negotiating parties don't pay them any attention because I'm pretty sure 

they have Lozano's phone number. Is it just to whip up the fans into a frenzy?

If that's the goal, it's clearly working.

 

 

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