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what a shit show this is becoming. i mean i care about the team, but this is becoming such a turn-off to sports in general. 

squabbling over money that these kids aren't even going to be able to spend in a lifetime. 

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1 minute ago, beckham15 said:

Next report Levine or Nightengale come up with is Machado currently being offered Jon Jay money.....this is more comical than anything 

So tempted to DM Levine on Twitter and make something up and act like I have sources.

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1 minute ago, Soxbadger said:

No sauces.

But this is all hypothetical based on my perception using different negotiations that I have been a part of as a baseline.

For example.

Lets say Im looking to buy a house. My limit is $500k. There is this amazing house, but its listed at $1mil. Its unlikely my agent is going to take me to see that house. Its unlikely I even have my agent talk to their agent, because its way out of my price range.

As it turns out, the best offer on the house is currently $400k. How do you get it out into the market to potential buyers "Hey maybe you should make an offer" without letting them know the only other offer is way below what you want.

Thats why Lozano would only want leaks that are somewhat close to what he wants for Machado. Hed never want one so low that another team starts at 7/180, thats just too much work to try and push to the $250 range. Because if those teams were willing to go $250, theyd have been in on him at the start. 

That's why I think everyone afraid of other teams jumping in @$175M is a load of horse manure. We all need to try to think as executives in charge of a multi billion dollar corporation instead of .25 ante weekend poker players who buy back into the pot because they happen to have an extra $10 in their wallet. These things are planned out in advance , these teams have other holes to fill . They can't hold up there own team while jumping in at one amount then jumping right back out when it gets too rich. You are either in or out from the start knowing full well that the market can either crater or explode.

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1 minute ago, soxfan2014 said:

I fucking hate this and wish I had the self-control to stop checking.

Nah man I love this dumb shit, its like game of thrones but real and with Twitter instead of swords

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Just now, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

That's why I think everyone afraid of other teams jumping in @$175M is a load of horse manure. We all need to try to think as executives in charge of a multi billion dollar corporation instead of .25 ante weekend poker players who buy back into the pot because they happen to have an extra $10 in their wallet. These things are planned out in advance , these teams have other holes to fill . They can't hold up there own team while jumping in at one amount then jumping right back out when it gets too rich. You are either in or out from the start knowing full well that the market can either crater or explode.

$175mil is way different than $300mil. And the expectation to start the off-season was $300mil. I absolutely believe there are teams out there who would consider $200mil that wouldnt have touched $300mil. 

But again, no way is Lozano leaking such a low offer. Corbin got 6 years $140. No way is Machado only getting 7 years $175.

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1 minute ago, HakunaMachado said:

Heyman’s update is good right? That is what all the board insiders have been saying all along?

I wouldnt jump for Joy. Heyman tends to be a mouth piece.

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24 minutes ago, Quin said:

Heyman + Passan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olney, Nightengale and Co.

There aren't enough likes for this post. We need to replace Nightengale's photo with Bob from Niles. 

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Again the Sox will get Machado and will get him at a fairly decent price compared to what Lozano was trying to get. It’s gonna get done but will continue to be a shit show until Lozano comes back down to reality. Machado to the Sox at 8 years/$260 

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5 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

That's why I think everyone afraid of other teams jumping in @$175M is a load of horse manure. We all need to try to think as executives in charge of a multi billion dollar corporation instead of .25 ante weekend poker players who buy back into the pot because they happen to have an extra $10 in their wallet. These things are planned out in advance , these teams have other holes to fill . They can't hold up there own team while jumping in at one amount then jumping right back out when it gets too rich. You are either in or out from the start knowing full well that the market can either crater or explode.

Not in my experience. You don't get to be a billionaire by failing to seize opportunities. I've been in negotiations where an unexpected major opportunity is presented and my client had to pivot to take advantage. It was months of work for a deal that didn't pan out, but we had to try. Others trying to get the contract understood and waited.  Some teams won't be interested regardless, but a lot would change their plans for a relatively low cost Manny Machado.

It's tough to describe what negotiating these types of deals is like, but comparing it to buying a car or house is not remotely close.

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16 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said:

This is even more ridiculous than the #CesPAYdes thing a few years ago.

#CesPAYdes was my enduring memory of you until your sudden return.

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6 minutes ago, Soxbadger said:

$175mil is way different than $300mil. And the expectation to start the off-season was $300mil. I absolutely believe there are teams out there who would consider $200mil that wouldnt have touched $300mil. 

But again, no way is Lozano leaking such a low offer. Corbin got 6 years $140. No way is Machado only getting 7 years $175.

Let me make it plain what I think. There might be teams out there who have told Lozano give me a call when you are near the conclusion and we'll see what we can do. Those teams might be  conversatively filling other holes on their rosters . That means those teams have been in it since the beginning, quietly in it, but still in it from the start. I think it's highly implausible that any team not in it from the start will come suddenly swooping in.

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36 minutes ago, IowaPG said:

I dont know that for fact. Id be putting my foot in my mouth if i said that. I just know as of right now, there is not another team willing to offer an AAV near his 32.5m expectations. The pujols comp is a sticking point to the frustration 

No offense, but this simply isn’t true.

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Sox settling in for the long game, as well they should. Lozano will get back to Sox if Phillie or anyone beat the bid. In the meantime, I think Hahn is playing it right.

 

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23 minutes ago, G&T said:

"way off" could also mean $120M. Heyman just thinks it's higher.

Ridiculous.  He clearly said it starts with a 2.  I'm thinking it's about $250,000.

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1 minute ago, SleepyWhiteSox said:

Ridiculous.  He clearly said it starts with a 2.  I'm thinking it's about $250,000.

I thought that statement was pretty clearly joking based on reports that keep lowering the offer. 

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Just now, iamshack said:

No offense, but this simply isn’t true.

Its not true that no one deems Machado worth a record matchin AAV. Dont want to argue, I’m just being open minded to this possibility. Machado is not *currently an alltime great.

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