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8 minutes ago, Rowand44 said:

I haven’t gone since they switched hotels whenever the hell that was.  A lot of us old ass Soxtalk posters used to go all the time before that.

If I am remembering correctly I actually met ss2k at soxfest before I ever knew about soxtalk. Mario knew him from here so they said hi there. Ss2k probably doesn’t even remember that 😂 

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Putting a mystery team out there during the Friday news dump is hilarious to me. “Stew on that all weekend ya dopes!”

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40 minutes ago, Rowand44 said:

I haven’t gone since they switched hotels whenever the hell that was.  A lot of us old ass Soxtalk posters used to go all the time before that.

Same here.  2006 was the last year at the Regency. 

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30 minutes ago, shipps said:

If I am remembering correctly I actually met ss2k at soxfest before I ever knew about soxtalk. Mario knew him from here so they said hi there. Ss2k probably doesn’t even remember that 😂 

Yep, I do remember.  Those were some fun nights.

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6 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Bryant, Almora And Longoria go off on slow-developing Machado/Harper market

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/25797148/kris-bryant-chicago-cubs-frustrated-unsigned-bryce-harper-manny-machado

 

 

These guys are delusional. A “horrible” market for Machado worst case is $175mil, and we know it’s much higher 

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3 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Bryant, Almora And Longoria go off on slow-developing Machado/Harper market

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/25797148/kris-bryant-chicago-cubs-frustrated-unsigned-bryce-harper-manny-machado

 

 

That Evan Longoria quote is so stupid. 

"As fans, why should “value” for your team even be a consideration? It’s not your money, it’s money that players have worked their whole lives to get to that level and be deserving of. Bottom line, fans should want the best players and product on the field for their team."

Couple things here. First, it literally is our money. It might be the owners that sign the checks, but the revenue that is used to pay for players is either directly or indirectly from the fans. Second, we all want the best players on the field too. Does he not see fans being frustrated with this and complaining about the owners? Its everywhere. Yankees and Cubs fans are organizing revolts as we speak. Everyone knows the owners are being cheap and trying to maximize their profits above on field competitiveness. But that leads to the final point which is that because we know the owners aren't spending as much and therefore there is a limited payroll capacity, we care about value because we want our team to be competitive. Being competitive isn't likely if we have multiple guys making $20m per year when they aren't playing any better than a rookie who would be making a lot less so we can then spend that money on someone who will help the team win more. In that way, carrying about value is only applicable if you care about winning. In reality, Longoria was part of the system that helped lead to this situation and now he is trying to put the blame on anyone else, including the fans. Blaming the people who allow you to play a game for a living at any time is a bad idea, but especially so when a strike is almost definitely coming in the near future and it would benefit them to win the war of public opinion. 

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Longoria can look in the mirror at his own contract and regression as a fine example of why more owners are leery of handing out these huge contracts. Look at how the contracts of Heyward and Ellsbury have handcuffed the cubs and Yanks.

Oh and please dont try and tell me it's not the fans money Evan. Why else are we paying $8 for a beer? :lol:

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1 minute ago, BlackSox13 said:

Longoria can look in the mirror at his own contract and regression as a fine example of why more owners are leery of handing out these huge contracts. Look at how the contracts of Heyward and Ellsbury have handcuffed the cubs and Yanks.

Oh and please dont try and tell me it's not the fans money Evan. Why else are we paying $8 for a beer? :lol:

The way baseball players are paid is fubar. They usually get paid as they are regressing. And are underpaid when they are at the top of their game. Like you said, contracts like Ellsbury, Heyward, Pujols...teams are wary of that. It can handcuff your team for 10 years.

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1 hour ago, soxfan18 said:

This may surprise you, but a lot of people couldn't give a shit about the Bulls/NBA.  

Good for them. Gold star. 

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4 minutes ago, Ross Gload Fan said:

It was like Feb 18th.

Yeah it was the 19th...yikes. 

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Give me a break. Let's go back 50 years. In 1970, the average salary for a player was around 29000 dollars according to Forbes, and the average Amercan salary was around 10 grand. Today, the average is around 45000 for the average American, if you meet in the middle with men and women, and the average for a baseball player is in the 3 MILLION. I don't care what they b**** about, they're all millionaires. I understand they work their asses off and only play for 10-15 seasons on average, but that's still way more money than anyone of us will ever make, collectively!! Look how much more theyve won in their collective bargaining in the last 50 years. Like how can you b**** about making millions of dollars????

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11 minutes ago, Ross Gload Fan said:

It was like Feb 18th.

But there were few rumors at all about it. Boston media pretty much said it would happen and it finally got announced when ST started. 

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2 hours ago, Rowand44 said:

Ok so banana man is definitely a Soxtalk poster.  Who is you?

I know banana man personally hes actually a friend I went to high school with haha

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27 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

God we could use a fucking rumor.

With the amount of posts here, I am guessing there is not a lot 9f fucking to report. 

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13 minutes ago, Ross Gload Fan said:

I will not be able to survive another month. I just wont. 

JD Martinez and Jake Arrieta are no Manny Machado or Bryce Harper though. I bet they sign before February. 

If they don’t sign by SoxFest, I would ask:

- What really has been going on with negotiations? What is real and what is false?

- Is JR negotiating contracts?

- If you can’t comment on ongoing negotiations, what can you tell us?

- If you fail to sign Machado or Harper, what is the plan? Arenado or Sale?

- How confident are you in player development, as in, are you anticipating players to come up and produce by a certain timeframe so that you don’t waste service time of the other quality young talent?

- Will you take accountability if the rebuild fails? Would you take risks even if it means it’s you might get canned when a new owner comes in?

- Wipe that smug smile off your face KW, it’s partially your fucking fault we haven’t done anything since 2005.😁

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There is not a chance in hell they go into any specifics about negotiations.  I’m sure Hahn will repeat they are always looking for premium talent while not losing sight of the rebuild.

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Just now, fathom said:

There is not a chance in hell they go into any specifics about negotiations.  I’m sure Hahn will repeat they are always looking for premium talent while not losing sight of the rebuild.

Then I would ask:

- Who would you have in mind that could improve the team?

- What positions do you feel set at?

- Are you going to continue answering questions by not answering questions like a politician, Rick? How patient are you with the rebuild and if top players don’t sign here, what will you do with all of the revenue, especially if your talent development fails and they don’t turn into quality, result producing ball players?

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1 hour ago, NCsoxfan said:

These guys are delusional. A “horrible” market for Machado worst case is $175mil, and we know it’s much higher 

Yep.  Harper was the 68th best player in baseball last year (WAR) and he will likely get the largest contract in history.   "Horrible".  

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