Jump to content
yesterday333

Manny: Agent of Chaos

Recommended Posts

9 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

 Is it just me or does anyone else get a kick out of the misspelling of words that basically call people idiots, e,g. baffon  instead of buffoon or dum rather than dumb ?

Sorry Mr. Grammar police... 😒

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
23 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Not worth sacrificing a 2nd round pick for two years of Pollack.

I don’t know about that. Draft picks are more of a crap shoot in baseball than any other sport. Pollack is a proven major leaguer. His value is definitely more than a draft pick. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
15 minutes ago, soxfan49 said:

He's probably congratulating him on a soon to be contract and wishing him luck. Why is this news?

Dont know... Manny seems annoyed as hell in that pic...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If we don't get any of the 2(which I think we won't..) Stay the course... Don't want moose don't want pollack(spelling grammar cops?) Not worth wasting resources on crap players...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
31 minutes ago, Sarava said:

The Nationals owner Ted Lerner has been cheap in the past, tying the hands of their GM Rizzo with payroll constraints. Yet there was a whisper, what last week...where he wants to go for it since he is old and knows his time is getting short.

Didn't the Nationals have a disastrous bullpen last year? Dont they need major bullpen help still?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, NotHahn said:

Didn't the Nationals have a disastrous bullpen last year? Dont they need major bullpen help still?

I thought they resolved that, but honestly I don't follow NL teams all that closely,. so I'll let someone else answer that.

And as for time running short for owners. He seems healthy and all, but Reinsdorf does turn 83 next month. He's already playing with house money at that age. I really hope he doesn't let this one slip through their fingers. It's literally now or never for him with the Sox.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
10 minutes ago, shipps said:

I don’t know about that. Draft picks are more of a crap shoot in baseball than any other sport. Pollack is a proven major leaguer. His value is definitely more than a draft pick. 

Good point, too. Hope we have a major signing coming soon and don't have a topic regarding Pollock.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Pollock’s like a mini-Harper.  Or similar to Eaton, as well.

One year of 6.9 fWAR in 2015.

The rest of his career, 2.3 2.9 0.5 2.2 and 2.5.

Projected at 3.1 for his age 31 season.

Basically, because he’s almost never healthy...his average outside of that one year is only 2.1.   Nevertheless, it seems he can get at least 4 years for $56-60 million, a contract not too dissimilar from what we gave Melky Cabrera seemingly a decade ago.   5 and $80 seems too high, but we’ll see after Harper and Machado sign (well, at least one of them.)

The wisdom of offering that with 7 outfielders in our Top 15 prospects isn’t clear.  Only if we brought Pollock, Moustakas/Gonzalez and Grandal onto the roster could we legitimately hope to compete in 2019.

 

"Let's just say if Pollock reaches a point where he'd be willing to accept the offer you've proposed (a one-year, $18 million to $20 million deal), the Braves would have the financial flexibility necessary to complete such a deal," Bowman writes. "But there is certainly plenty of reason to be concerned about the medical history of this outfielder, who fractured his right hand in 2014, fractured his elbow in '16, missed significant time with a groin strain in '17 and missed a portion of last year with a fractured left thumb.

"At least two of these injuries (fractured elbow and fractured thumb) were a result of aggressive plays made in the field. Still, even if you're going to say these were freak injuries that likely won't occur again, before making any kind of significant commitment for one year or more, you have to account for the mounting lingering effects."

The division-rival Mets had been rumored to be very interested in Pollock earlier in the offseason, but it appears unlikely he'll land in Queens. There have been multiple other clubs linked to Pollock, but possibly due to the fact that fellow outfielder Bryce Harper hasn't yet signed, nothing has materialized to this point.

mlb.com

Edited by caulfield12

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Starting pitching is much more abundant next off season...plus if all the outfield spects continue to advance they become better trade chips. Unless keuchels price drops  considerably and missing out on Grandal....there really aren't any other FAs worth pursuing except Manny and Harper. Get one and go crazy next year after further evaluations.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
47 minutes ago, shipps said:

I don’t know about that. Draft picks are more of a crap shoot in baseball than any other sport. Pollack is a proven major leaguer. His value is definitely more than a draft pick. 

Not to us when we don’t plan on competing next year.  Throwing away a high 2nd round draft pick and intentional slot money so we can have Pollack for just one year of our competitive window (2020) would be incredibly short-sighted.

Edited by Chicago White Sox
  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
11 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

They are just going to dump Turner?  He's the heart and soul of that team, in many ways.

 

He is.  But do you think they’re going to let both guys pass without trying?  Usually the biggest $/asset exchanges involve the large market teams who can feasibly sustain the RISK of such moves.  Those teams give long hard looks at their rosters and oftentimes get creative to pounce on these types of opportunities.  Not saying he will resign—just saying I wouldn’t be shocked knowing Dodgers are at least “checking in.”  A “mystery name” to throw in the mix.  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It is funny how little “lessening” the punishment of signing a QO player has changed the thought process.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Not to us when we don’t plan on competing next year.  Throwing away a high 2nd round draft pick and intentional slot money so we can have Pollack for just one year of our competitive window (2020) would be incredibly short-sighted.

From that perspective yes. But I don’t think the Sox are looking to be a bottom feeder team for another year. If they happen to be Pollack would be an option for trade just like the rest of the guys they have signed this off season. 

Im curious when was the last time we had a successful second round pick actually. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
20 minutes ago, shipps said:

From that perspective yes. But I don’t think the Sox are looking to be a bottom feeder team for another year. If they happen to be Pollack would be an option for trade just like the rest of the guys they have signed this off season. 

Im curious when was the last time we had a successful second round pick actually. 

Alec Hansen was taken in the 2nd round of the 2016 draft and was a top 60 prospect as recently as a year ago.

Edited by Chicago White Sox

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Alec Hansen was taken in the 2nd round of the 2016 draft and was a top 60 prospect as recently as a year ago.

The jury is still out on him, wouldn’t call him a success story 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, BlackSox13 said:

Because in the world of social media everything is a blues clues mystery.

So are you saying all we need is our thinking chair?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
30 minutes ago, beckham15 said:

The jury is still out on him, wouldn’t call him a success story 

He was demoted last year. I sure hope he comes back to his old form though. I was really excited about him two years ago. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
51 minutes ago, beckham15 said:

The jury is still out on him, wouldn’t call him a success story 

Sure, but the point is a year ago we was worth quite a bit and could have been a nice piece of a trade.  Luis Gonzalez was a 3rd round pick in 2017 if that is a better example.

Edited by Chicago White Sox

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, Sarava said:

It will be interesting which Hansen shows up this coming season.

The fact that he can be so volatile really takes the shine off regardless.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
44 minutes ago, bschmaranz said:

So are you saying all we need is our thinking chair?

Yes! And if that don't help we'll call Dora to help us find clues.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So, it's starting out kind of boring today, as far as our whales are concerned. Sure would like a big White Sox surprise from either the Harper or Machado camp. Now, back to reality.

Edited by Saufley

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

×