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10 minutes ago, beckham15 said:

If he doesn’t sign with the Whitesox I think the majority of this board is going to need a safe space and therapy animal of some kind 

Go hard after harper  a deal he can turn down.

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3 minutes ago, beckham15 said:

I’m sure it will be at 100 by lunch time today 

Wetbutt leaked the Quintana trade the night before and it officially broke around 10:00am or so that next day IIRC.  HidingInYourMomsRoom claimed last night a deal should be announced today.  If you don’t believe in coincidences, this could be announced before lunch.

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1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Wetbutt leaked the Quintana trade the night before and it officially broke around 10:00am or so that next day IIRC.  HidingInYourMomsRoom claimed last night a deal should be announced today.  If you don’t believe in coincidences, this could be announced before lunch.

The Sale trade leaked the night before as well, including nailing Basabes inclusion.

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2 minutes ago, Quin said:

Vinne Duber is positive now, so that's weird.

Also Mike got a shout out.

Guessing this was on the pod?

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47 minutes ago, fathom said:

A solid Yankees insider, https://twitter.com/SimonettiSource, is doing a Q&A this morning.  He seems pretty damn confident the Yankees are getting Manny.  Quite a few tweets to read, but here are a few:

 

Even if we don’t get manny, we did get fathom mastering the embedded tweet

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23 minutes ago, fathom said:

A solid Yankees insider, https://twitter.com/SimonettiSource, is doing a Q&A this morning.  He seems pretty damn confident the Yankees are getting Manny.  Quite a few tweets to read, but here are a few:

 

This is two tweets in response to an original tweet:

 

Then the quoted tweet came from Simentte Source saying his info about Manny is spot on but not about Andjular. So the fact that Yankee Source believes if it was about Money Manny would have already signed elsewhere already?? It would be the opposite, if it wasn’t about money he would have already signed with NYY.

He may still end up as a Yankee but clearly he is holding out for money... Plus Yankee Source stated he hasn’t signed yet. What positive momentum has trended towards the Yankee side lately? That his wife would prefer Ny?

Now who knows how much the Sox moves of Jay, Alonso, and to a lesser degree the other signings, helps until after he signs. It’s either desperation, tactful acquisitions to appease Mannys camp to lessen the fact he will have to sustain a year or two a rebuild, and to surround him with family and friends on and off the field during the these years?

As much beef as Hahn receives here sometimes he’s a smart dude. He is very tactful in his negotiations and ways. He always has a reason for an acquisition that fits into the bigger picture. He has stated we aren’t just going to sign FA as stop gaps just to spend money or takes positions away for players to develop. That makes Jay and Alonso more than cannon fodder for 19. He has also stated multiple times over the last two years the money for talent will be there and that the FO is prepared to part with old or customary spending habits if they wanted a chance to compete with big name FA in the future. 

All of this leads me to believe Hahn has a plan and these moves make me think he is confident Manny is signing. Otherwise why put your nuts on the line so if he doesn’t land MM but signed and traded for these guys he would be laughed at in the media and around the league just cause of the desperation of the moves themselves and allowing yourself to be burned. Even if he really wanted to sign and trade for Alonso and Jay for purposes beyond manny, he would have to know the perception it portrays to fans and media regardless of his intentions.

It makes me confident Hahn knows what he is doing and confident about the Manny situation. And again why hasn’t he spoken to the media since the Herrera signing. And why haven’t the Sox have not made the Jay signing official yet? The media has details of the contact but no acknowledgement yet? I know it’s pending a physical and Jay could be on vacation or something. 

Just seems to be a lot of smoke out there to me. But I could be completely wrong, who knows anymore.

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6 minutes ago, bmags said:

Even if we don’t get manny, we did get fathom mastering the embedded tweet

Still trying to figure that one out myself

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10 minutes ago, bmags said:

The Sale trade leaked the night before as well, including nailing Basabes inclusion.

Seems like there’s a pattern here.

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7 minutes ago, beckham15 said:

Still trying to figure that one out myself

Sometimes issue is when you paste in link you bring in additional formatting that blocks the embed.

When there is extra formatting, a black bar appears at bottom of field after you paste asking if you want to paste as plain text, click that and the embed will appear.

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The notion has been posited that the Sox may be waiting to have a press conference, with 3, or more of the acquisitions, particularly the "Tres Amigos". One would have to think that SoxFest would figure into the equation, as well. If such a plan exists, when would the optimum time be, to announce a Machado deal and hold a joint press conference?

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1 minute ago, Lillian said:

The notion has been posited that the Sox may be waiting to have a press conference, with 3, or more of the acquisitions, particularly the "Tres Amigos". One would have to think that SoxFest would figure into the equation, as well. If such a plan exists, when would the optimum time be, to announce a Machado deal and hold a joint press conference?

I don’t mean to be rude, but SoxFest will have no bearing on a transaction of this magnitude.  And if we do in fact land Manchado, he will be the sole focus of the press conference.

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2 minutes ago, KnightsOnMintSt said:

So now all the smoke is around the Yankees again today? I don’t know how much longer my heart can take this.

What smoke?

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2 minutes ago, KnightsOnMintSt said:

So now all the smoke is around the Yankees again today? I don’t know how much longer my heart can take this.

The Yankees would have to be considered the "favorite" from the beginning so long as the money and years were close. 

If/when Andujar gets dealt, that is when I would be very concerned about Machado to the Yankees shortly after. 

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Just now, Chicago White Sox said:

I don’t mean to be rude, but SoxFest will have no bearing on a transaction of this magnitude.  And if we do in fact land Manchado, he will be the sole focus of the press conference.

Also they would definitely wanna get this out very soon to create major buzz for Soxfest. Can't imagine too many tickets have sold for that as of now.

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7 minutes ago, Lillian said:

The notion has been posited that the Sox may be waiting to have a press conference, with 3, or more of the acquisitions, particularly the "Tres Amigos". One would have to think that SoxFest would figure into the equation, as well. If such a plan exists, when would the optimum time be, to announce a Machado deal and hold a joint press conference?

No way the internet would keep that secret for 3 weeks.

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WSCR had a reporter on this morning from New York and he kind of said it best.  Both of these organizations are pretty buttoned up and nobody really knows what each front office is doing.

Yankee fans want Machado but as he pointed out for the last three years they were getting Harper now they are getting Machado.  His sources said the yanks would not go over $270M but he felt that was more then they actually would. 

He really had no idea where Machado would go.

 

 

 

 

 

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