Dam8610 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 28 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said: So teams would have to spend as low as $185m (90%) for this season? That would increase a lot of payrolls in MLB by a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 37 minutes ago, Jake said: Lack of a salary cap is definitely not the problem in baseball right now. The harshness of the new luxury tax may even be a key problem in getting the best players paid well. It's all about competitive balance, You just can't have the richest teams outbidding everyone all the time . The richest teams with the most payroll still get a lot of the best players but the tax insures more teams have a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, EloyJenkins said: At least one thing is true currently...Boras and Lozano are shitting bricks right now. Or else fielding calls from the Padres, Cardinals, Yankees, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 I imagine the baseball writers cafeteria table over at ESPN is pretty awkward today 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 The White Sox want this out there so the Phillies won't try to bid what they think, is against themselves. It's hard to imagine a 7 year $175 million offer would actually work. That would be crazy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 The narrative draws to a close. NYY is put back into the rumors, so that Jerry gets the story arc that he defeated the Yankees with a bigger spending offer. 8/260 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 minute ago, daggins said: Or else fielding calls from the Padres, Cardinals, Yankees, etc. And then what does that call sound like? Padres: Hey Lozano, I heard the highest offer is for only $25 million per year. We'd like to enter the bidding. Lozano: Actually, another team is willing to go 8 for $250 right now. Can you beat that? Padres: No Lozano: Ok, bye. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 52 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Its not a lowball offer if it is the best offer. Hahn is playing this correctly. I've said it 100 times, but why pay the man $300M if you can get him for $200M. That $100M will go a long way in filling the other 24 spots on the roster. You only blink when you need to blink. This. There is absolutely nothing wrong with sitting on 7/175... ...provided they are willing to go much higher the moment someone outbids them, and they are managing their communications channels such that they will have a chance to beat any new bids before he gets gobbled up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 35 minutes ago, 103 mph screwball said: I don't disagree with your points. But another thing to consider is Manny Machado being happy playing for the White Sox. Pay him enough that he feels he's paid well for his services. Maybe that's what the Sox are doing here. Nobody will go 200 million for you. We will give you 230. Eh why would MM be unhappy that we paid the most for him? Maybe he should be pissed at all the other teams that didn't want him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roughneck Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 57 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: I think it's pathetic and nobody should be excited because 2021 season is gonna we wiped out and the Sox are gonna lose a year in everybody's primes during peak roster -- AGAIN. My eyes rolled so hard I went blind for about 30 seconds. The mass of MLB players aren't going to vote to go on strike and lose their own salaries during their limited earning window just because Manny can only buy 17 palaces and not 30. Also, this report is puzzling, but clearly false. Rabbit, WSD, Bucket, other people with sources have said continually that the Sox are offering BIG money here. This report wouldn't have qualified as huge money since like 1999. Every day we get another false report, yet people keep going nuts over them. Y'all just looking for reasons to be mad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Roughneck said: My eyes rolled so hard I went blind for about 30 seconds. The mass of MLB players aren't going to vote to go on strike and lose their own salaries during their limited earning window just because Manny can only buy 17 palaces and not 30. Also, this report is puzzling, but clearly false. Rabbit, WSD, Bucket, other people with sources have said continually that the Sox are offering BIG money here. This report wouldn't have qualified as huge money since like 1999. Every day we get another false report, yet people keep going nuts over them. Y'all just looking for reasons to be mad. Seems an awful lot like WSDs head is spinning right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Interestingly, Heyman's tweets are kind of like a referee in a match. He's the guy stepping in between two dudes at a bar fight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 On the off chance that the Sox could actually sign Machado for $25M a year, would they then still pursue Harper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirdog Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 IF offer is 7/175 and Sox haven’t budged, then safe to assume it was the original offer that Sox made a couple weeks ago. Lozano has had that time to drum up interest and get a better one. So why should the White Sox increase their offer? sure they have probably intimated they would go higher if necessary but why is that necessary at this point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Hombre Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Princess Dye said: Interestingly, Heyman's tweets are kind of like a referee in a match. He's the guy stepping in between two dudes at a bar fight That’s how I’m reading them too. He’s not outright saying it, but Heyman doesn’t seem to buy the 7/$175 report as true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Roughneck said: My eyes rolled so hard I went blind for about 30 seconds. The mass of MLB players aren't going to vote to go on strike and lose their own salaries during their limited earning window just because Manny can only buy 17 palaces and not 30. Also, this report is puzzling, but clearly false. Rabbit, WSD, Bucket, other people with sources have said continually that the Sox are offering BIG money here. This report wouldn't have qualified as huge money since like 1999. Every day we get another false report, yet people keep going nuts over them. Y'all just looking for reasons to be mad. Well you're a moron. Do you understand the fundamentals of a union? Seniority matters as does solidarity. In fact, those are the only things that matter. Revenue was up and payrolls were down in 2018. The percentage of the pie going to the Union is down to 44%. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Just now, hogan873 said: On the off chance that the Sox could actually sign Machado for $25M a year, would they then still pursue Harper? Without question, because it means the Phillies aren’t bidding much more for Harper. Unfortunately, it’s not going to happen and Machado will eventually get an AAV in the $30M to $35M range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shago Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 4 hours ago, Orlando said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Allright, here is my no sauces take that I think many of you might like. **NO SAUCES** 7/$175 may have be an original offer, but it is definitely not what is out there now. Lozano is a businessman and Machado is one of his star clients. If he wants to keep getting big name clients, he needs to show results. Machado is close to signing a MUCH bigger deal, but much less than the 10 year $350 etc. So what can Lozano do to make sure he looks good? Let people know just how much he got people to increase offers. Lozano looks like a bad agent if he took a client worth $350 and only got him $275. But Lozano looks like a great agent if he can say "I took offers from $175 and got them up to $275." So that is my no sauces take for the day. The offers are significantly higher, but Lozano is now trying to control expectations. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: Well you're a moron. Do you understand the fundamentals of a union? Seniority matters as does solidarity. In fact, those are the only things that matter. Revenue was up and payrolls were down in 2018. The percentage of the pie going to the Union is down to 44%. Completely unnecessary insult. Don’t do it again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 No way baseball is played during the 2021 season...no freaking way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said: And then what does that call sound like? Padres: Hey Lozano, I heard the highest offer is for only $25 million per year. We'd like to enter the bidding. Lozano: Actually, another team is willing to go 8 for $250 right now. Can you beat that? Padres: No Lozano: Ok, bye. Probably more like "We'll get back to you". More teams in the bidding is better for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peacock Wrestler Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Just now, Baron said: No way baseball is played during the 2021 season...no freaking way. I'm not too worried about it yet. A lot can change between then and now. We'll see how this free agency winds up as well as contract extensions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 48 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Like I said last night, if this offer is true and the Sox don’t land Machado, our front office is basically committing franchise suicide. That leaves me to believe the Sox are confident in their ability to get this done and simply want the Phillies to think they’re sitting pretty. And honestly, Jerry having that “cheap” association with him might just give this rumor the credence it needs to be effective. I felt so good yesterday when I had that positive feeling. Now there's this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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