Princess Dye Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Wildly interesting is if the Sox get him for 200M with early opt out, or are forced to bid more $ so they can get longer control. Hopefully they shell out more cash. the farm is stocked enough to where we don't have to do FA patches like in the past every year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 These guys are 26 years old, in their peak and among the best in the game, they will get opt-outs. Gives them long term security if they decline ( see Heyward/Ellsbury) or if they are playing well they can opt-out and seek another 10 year deal around age 30. They would be dumb not to insist on an opt-out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, Sockin said: Regarding the opt outs, FWIW in Dave’s tweet earlier he did say he would be surprised if Manny wasn’t a “White Sox for life.” I found that curious too. I guess we never did entertain the idea about a contract without an opt out. Maybe the Sox don't want to give him that option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirdog Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, ItsCalledComiskey said: FFS it's Sox, not Sock. FFS, ItsCalledGuaranteedRate 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SonofaRoache Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, heirdog said: FFS, ItsCalledGuaranteedRate You sir, have won the Internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiebs13 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Per Jeff passan's latest story, they Sox have an 8 yr offer on the table. http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/25755553/manny-machado-8-year-offer-via-chicago-white-sox 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: I found that curious too. I guess we never did entertain the idea about a contract without an opt out. Maybe the Sox don't want to give him that option. It's too dangerous NOT to. With the new broadcasting rights deal expiring after the 2024 season, the last thing they'd want is to be locked into a Heyward-like contract for another 5 years if the rebuild fails to lead to a consistent winner and their financial flexibility is dramatically decreased at that point. The ideal situation would actually be for Harper or Machado to lead the charge into the post-season, play well enough to opt out but then for the homegrown prospects to also be excelling and to get long-term extensions (around 2021-2022) to replace that singular large contract on the payroll. It also gives them more flexibility about a possible sale of the team in the future. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Kiebs13 said: Per Jeff passan's latest story, they Sox have an 8 yr offer on the table. http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/25755553/manny-machado-8-year-offer-via-chicago-white-sox This means a lot more to me than the Nightengale report. He seems to think we'd offer 10 years if necessary, too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, Kiebs13 said: Per Jeff passan's latest story, they Sox have an 8 yr offer on the table. http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/25755553/manny-machado-8-year-offer-via-chicago-white-sox All we can do it speculate that they're currently somewhere in the $240 to $280 range (probably closer to $240 as their initial offer). Anything less than $30 million per year is simply not going to work, unless the Phillies were to sign Harper for an A-Rod contract in the next couple of weeks. Even then, other teams would probably be attracted to jump back in on Machado if the Phillies were already eliminated as a suitor (which a $340-360 million contract would likely do). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Kiebs13 said: Per Jeff passan's latest story, they Sox have an 8 yr offer on the table. http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/25755553/manny-machado-8-year-offer-via-chicago-white-sox This is awesome and makes me feel a lot more confident than the reports of not going over 7 years. Edited January 14, 2019 by Orlando Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: This means a lot more to me than the Nightengale report. He seems to think we'd offer 10 years if necessary, too. Yup, this is very positive news. Glad to hear we’re at 8 years now because that hopefully means we’re one step closer to resolution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EloyJenkins Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 If they have committed to 8 years this gets done by Tuesday. Go crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) This has to end early this week right? Especially with this purported 8 year offer. Edited January 14, 2019 by DirtySox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 hour ago, JoshPR said: Opt out after 3 years is dumb. It's what I'm afraid of. I'm hoping for an opt out after 5 years, but as long as it's nothing before the end of year 4, I'll be ok. 3 would be a disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polar Bear Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Just bc I want to feel involved in this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polar Bear Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Just now, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: It's what I'm afraid of. I'm hoping for an opt out after 5 years, but as long as it's nothing before the end of year 4, I'll be ok. 3 would be a disaster. Yeah I think 5 would be great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Just now, EloyJenkins said: If they have committed to 8 years this gets done by Tuesday. Go crazy. Tell him he can have 8/$280M (the AAV record) or 9/$300M (the sexy number) and get this thing done tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Just for old times' sake, let's always remember this gem from Bruce Levine. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Sox: keep going up with total years and total $. and in turn get more control before the first opt out. if this is what we're doing, I have no problem waiting longer. that is a specifics negotiation and not a multi-horse race 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Just now, Jose Abreu said: Just for old times' sake, let's always remember this gem from Bruce Levine. he put out there what reinsdorf et al wanted out there, though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 minute ago, DirtySox said: This has to end early this week right? Especially with this purported 8 year offer. I think so. IMO, Machado’s camp wants to get this done before one of the two teams moves to Harper. And it really seems like Philadelphia is getting ready to shift to Harper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 That’s great from Passan. I’m gonna say it ends up around 8/250-260, and the last bit is just bumping up from that 30 mill per level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smellysox Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 3 hours ago, Princess Dye said: Great read https://theloopsports.com/2019/01/13/how-boras-and-harper-will-make-manny-machado-nearly-50-million-this-january/ Yes it is! Very good read. Good job shack! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 8/280 is my guess. 35 million AAV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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