Rowand44 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Tony said: YOU DONT HAVE TO SEE ANOTHER POINT. THERE IS NO OTHER POINT. THERE IS ONE REASON AND ONE REASON ONLY JON JAY IS BEING ADDED TO THE ROSTER. Cause he’s good friends with Yonder and they want to sign him to an extension? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) "Best friend growing up?" Dude's 7 years older. I'd find it hard to believe they were best friends as kids. Edited January 8, 2019 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Tony said: YOU DONT HAVE TO SEE ANOTHER POINT. THERE IS NO OTHER POINT. THERE IS ONE REASON AND ONE REASON ONLY JON JAY IS BEING ADDED TO THE ROSTER. Last time I wrecked this guy in the wrestling thread for continuing to bash the product yet subsequently continuing to watch the product, he blocked me, so be careful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFirebird Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 When it is “close” isn’t that just talk for we will sign Jon Jay when you sign? The you meaning Manny Machado. Seems like they would be at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, iWiN4PreP said: To me it's wasted money and a wasted roster spot. There's significantly better options out there. I'm not critical point upset -- if we get Manny, I'll see how the roster plays out, but i'm worried that moves like this puts us out on other potential FA's. What other free agent OFs are considerably better AND can play CF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREEDY Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Just now, soxfan49 said: Last time I wrecked this guy in the wrestling thread for continuing to bash the product yet subsequently continuing to watch the product, he blocked me, so be careful. If I had to guess he (and others) has a strong Harper>Machado preference and is feeling the heat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 Just now, soxfan2014 said: "Best friend growing up?" Dude's 7 years older. I worked in Miami for a short time and I've never seen a tighter knit community. Yes he's 7 years older but the odds that Machado was 1) playing with older kids growing up and 2) getting mentored by Jay growing up are overwhelming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: Rule #1, read this post. Rule #2, if there is any confusion, see Rule #1. Welp, you sold me -- let's collect dog shit so that we attract a real prize. Seriously tho -- I'm cool with it if it nets us the big dog... I hate the strategy of it tho.... you don't see a team like the Yankees pulling this to get Machado. This is clown-style strategy. This will be my last negative post here. Let's go GET MACHADO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Can we make his successful recruiting of Manny a clause in his contract? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokona Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 16 minutes ago, iWiN4PreP said: People are saying Jay is better than Engel... last year Engel had 0.6 WAR, Jay had 0.8. "better". Yeah... this is what we're going for... Jay's age 34, this guy isn't going to do anything. Engel's glove is worth .5 WAR, yes. Now let Jon Jay hit 3 times a game and bring Engel in in the 8th for defensive duties when we're winning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Just now, iWiN4PreP said: Welp, you sold me -- let's collect dog shit so that we attract a real prize. Seriously tho -- I'm cool with it if it nets us the big dog... I hate the strategy of it tho.... you don't see a team like the Yankees pulling this to get Machado. This is clown-style strategy. This will be my last negative post here. Let's go GET MACHADO! It's different. It is another way of distinguishing yourself from the crowd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuliusO1274 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I hope they have confirmation that Manny will sign with the Sox if they sign this guy because if they sign him and Manny doesn't sign with us then Hahn is going to look really stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) I think being super high-character veterans also has something to do with the signings. Sure Machado is important, but we also have to build a culture. And ANYTHING to get fucking Tolson off the depth chart. Worst player I’ve ever seen in a Sox uniform since Brian Simmons Edited January 8, 2019 by Jerksticks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tony said: So the one thing that does worry me is this is the White Sox we are talking about. I’d be lying if I said there isn’t a part of me thinking this is a rash move by the Sox, they don’t feel like they are in the drivers seat so they are pulling out last ditch efforts to try and help. Or they think they don’t need to offer the top bid because they have his buddies. I don’t think that’s the case, but it also wouldn’t shock me. Yeah I get that feeling too. For the love of God, just offer the most cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: Can we make his successful recruiting of Manny a clause in his contract? You have to wonder if the Sox are any damn good come 2020 and manny has opt outs in his contract after say year 2 or 3 if they have to do this all over again to potentially keep him on the roster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Stuff Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I hope this is a minor league deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, beckham15 said: You have to wonder if the Sox are any damn good come 2020 and manny has opt outs in his contract after say year 2 or 3 if they have to do this all over again to potentially keep him on the roster I’d be shocked if opt outs before the conclusion of year 4 at the earliest are on the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, JuliusO1274 said: I hope they have confirmation that Manny will sign with the Sox if they sign this guy because if they sign him and Manny doesn't sign with us then Hahn is going to look really stupid. Hahn did say he had to be creative in these deals, this is probably his idea of creative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREEDY Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Kenny has definitely asked Manny if he has any friends that have played football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Tony said: So the one thing that does worry me is this is the White Sox we are talking about. I’d be lying if I said there isn’t a part of me thinking this is a rash move by the Sox, they don’t feel like they are in the drivers seat so they are pulling out last ditch efforts to try and help. Or they think they don’t need to offer the top bid because they have his buddies. I don’t think that’s the case, but it also wouldn’t shock me. Please don't put these ideas into my head. This is the ultra cynical thought. Schtaaahhhp. LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA...I CAN'T HEAR YOU Edited January 8, 2019 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, JuliusO1274 said: I hope they have confirmation that Manny will sign with the Sox if they sign this guy because if they sign him and Manny doesn't sign with us then Hahn is going to look really stupid. He upgraded the CF position, holy **** what is wrong with you people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, Tony said: If Jon Jay helps 1% in getting Machado, Jon Jay can take Engel’s House if he wants. It’s shocking, but of course not shocking that people are getting upset over this. Honestly, I just don’t see why anyone would care about this. Engel is not a major league regular, Cordell has lost most of his prospect status, and Leury is semi-interesting but is made of glass and hasn’t done enough to be handed a job. Jay is probably more of a 4th OF at this point, but he’ll come cheap and may be better than our current internal options in CF. Ultimately this all about appeasing Machado, but for a couple million bucks he wouldn’t be a terrible addition on his own merits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, DH in the NL said: I hope this is a minor league deal It won't be a deal of significance. At 34 we are probably talking about a 1 year deal, and maybe a team option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, soxfan49 said: He upgraded the CF position, holy **** what is wrong with you people? They somehow think that Jay is worse than Engel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, iWiN4PreP said: When talking about a player like Jon Jay you could probably trade for a better CF and cost us next to nothing. Who though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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