WBWSF Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 I'm not surprised how this has turned out. I never thought JR would sign any big time free agent. I've thought from the beginning of this rebuild/tanking that this would be done as cheaply as possible. So far I've been right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisebri224 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Focurjay said: Rick Hahn is that you? Just kidding, Now we need to really hope that 5-8 of this kids pan out or we are going to be screwed for the next few years This exactly. If 5-6 of these kids pan out, they will be willing to pay someone in a trade for a guy with 2-3 years left to make a run. There will be no long term deals, especially for huge money. I'll be more irritated at this point if they spend $30 million on some slightly above average talent at 2-3 positions for no good reason. Let the kids at this point take their lumps and let's see what we have. I'll be doing that from my living room this year because I'm tired of the spin of this FO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScootsMcGoots Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 I think its safe to say fan morale is at like rock bottom...not sure what is worse, this Machado situation or the Drake LaRoche debacle and that whole 2016 season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockin Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 4 hours ago, soxfan2014 said: Coors factor turns people off. And good luck beating out the Yankees lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 4 hours ago, Ditka19861 said: I think the Sox go after Arenado hard next year, which may be better for the rebuild... 3B hits .290+, 35HR+, 110RBI+, not all the "baggage" Abreu 1st Moncada/Madrigal 2nd Anderson SS Arenado 3rd Not a bad infield... OF - Jimenez, Robert, Basabe, Gonzalez, Rutherford, Adolfo Lots of youth in the outfield, but tons of potential... f**etaboutit. You're dreamin'. Arenado isn't going anywhere, and if he does, it won't be to White Sox. He's likely to get and sign 8 years at $265mm, give or take. Soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 4 hours ago, Eminor3rd said: It’s not about Machado, it’s about how the White Sox just proved that even in a literally ideal, all-planets-aligned situation, they will not pay market rate for the player they need. Even when the market is depressed. They will take your money while they rebuild, but they will not spend it to contend. That market rate was $300M guaranteed. Who knew and only one team offered that. Free agency didn't linger this long at one time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 3 hours ago, caulfield12 said: 10-15% is about our going ratio for legit Top Ten prospects the last two decades... The problem is ownership is content with that. You can't fix that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 6 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Just forget about Arenado...no way in HELL he comes here. Why would any great free agent trust the White Sox and not get an opt out to protect themselves in a long term contract of 6-10 years? It just defies belief that any agent would box their client in like that for an organization that will never be the highest bidder. Rendon's last 2 years have been MVP quality. but he'll be 30 for the 2020 season so the Sox might want to put incentives in 3 years of a six year deal or might not even offer 6 years . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 3 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Rendon's last 2 years have been MVP quality. but he'll be 30 for the 2020 season so the Sox might want to put incentives in 3 years of a six year deal or might not even offer 6 years . 30 year old free agents mean you’d better be competitive in the first or second year and you have a relatively small window with that player before they decline. I don’t think the Sox as constructed are competitive in 2020. They’re relying way too heavily on all their prospects hitting at the same time this year to be good enough to sign a few key free agents for 2020 to push them over the top. Machado buys you some leeway to not have to rely heavily on Moncada and Madrigal, and Harper allows you to trade from depth for other pieces. Also honestly even if they’re still good for a while Rendon and Arenado are pipe dreams. They’ve never done anything but overpay mediocre players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 I don't think now is the time to give up hope. Yes it sucks and it's always an uphill battle given that every year you battle 29 other teams and our own front office. Maybe Moncada becomes a smash hit at third (doubtful). The Sox have this year to find out some things. Hopefully less injuries to prospects and more linear development of others in the minors and our young big leaguers. Management won't stop trying and we can hope they stop failing . We cannot sulk forever. It's OK to be disappointed or sad or even angry but if you are to continue being Sox fans then you will continue to want them to win, maybe not with all your heart for now. But if they do manage to sign a premium FA or two and we see some progress they will start to capture your full heart again and you will be there rooting for them to win in the playoffs. So we might as well get over it and get back on the horse . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: I don't think now is the time to give up hope. Yes it sucks and it's always an uphill battle given that every year you battle 29 other teams and our own front office. Maybe Moncada becomes a smash hit at third (doubtful). The Sox have this year to find out some things. Hopefully less injuries to prospects and more linear development of others in the minors and our young big leaguers. Management won't stop trying and we can hope they stop failing . We cannot sulk forever. It's OK to be disappointed or sad or even angry but if you are to continue being Sox fans then you will continue to want them to win, maybe not with all your heart for now. But if they do manage to sign a premium FA or two and we see some progress they will start to capture your full heart again and you will be there rooting for them to win in the playoffs. So we might as well get over it and get back on the horse . Way too soon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Way too soon... Nah when you temper your expectations you get used to disappointment and get over it quicker . No one died here and we didn't catch a spouse cheating on us. We all vented. I vented pretty good . Time to move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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