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12 hours ago, Whitesox27 said:

You know it's bad when the Browns are more relevant than the Sox.  

Browns are more relevant than most teams right now. They are one of the most talked about franchises in the NFL over the last year with the number of splashy moves they’ve made. 

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12 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

Browns are more relevant than most teams right now. They are one of the most talked about franchises in the NFL over the last year with the number of splashy moves they’ve made. 

It just goes to show you that there is hope for the future when you put someone in charge who actually knows what they're doing.

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  • “The Reds’ offseason additions of Sonny GrayAlex WoodTanner RoarkYasiel Puig and Matt Kemp were a welcome departure from what has become standard operating procedure for many noncompetitive teams in recent seasons, opines Joel Sherman of the New York Post. While many teams have followed the Astros’ model of aggressively tanking to stockpile draft picks and international bonus resources, the Reds at least positioned themselves to have a chance in the division, even if few would peg them as any sort of favorite. “For the first time in a long time we added multiple well-known major league players to this team in an offseason,” president of baseball operations Dick Williams tells Sherman. “That clearly has people’s imaginations going. That is part of the fun. … Just to be able to ponder the possible and the excitement is a huge psychological benefit to our fans.” Even if the moves ultimately fail to yield dividends, several of the newly acquired assets (namely Wood, Roark and Puig) could hold value on the summer trade market, and the Reds didn’t sacrifice any of the organization’s very top prospects in order to take a shot at improved results in 2019.”

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Rock bottom will be if the rebuild is a complete flop come 2023/2024, because then it'll be another TEN fucking years from today until another Sox rebuild's players are hitting the majors.

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I think wins-wise, 62 last season is the bottom.  Whether the rebuild will actually produce what it is supposed to produce remains to be seen. Obviously, not getting Machado or Harper was a big blow, but Sox fans are used to not landing that type of player. Just remember, KW took over a 94 win team, one of the youngest in baseball, with a farm system ranked #1, and couldn't build a sustained winner. I don't know why anyone thinks this is going to be way different. They need more talent, and not taking the final step trying to get the biggest of those talents in their prime years is something that is going to hang over these dopes if they don't build a consistent winner.

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3 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

I think wins-wise, 62 last season is the bottom.  Whether the rebuild will actually produce what it is supposed to produce remains to be seen. Obviously, not getting Machado or Harper was a big blow, but Sox fans are used to not landing that type of player. Just remember, KW took over a 94 win team, one of the youngest in baseball, with a farm system ranked #1, and couldn't build a sustained winner. I don't know why anyone thinks this is going to be way different. They need more talent, and not taking the final step trying to get the biggest of those talents in their prime years is something that is going to hang over these dopes if they don't build a consistent winner.

We need a new owner that would come in here and clean house in the front office immediately, honestly. 

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31 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

I think wins-wise, 62 last season is the bottom.  Whether the rebuild will actually produce what it is supposed to produce remains to be seen. Obviously, not getting Machado or Harper was a big blow, but Sox fans are used to not landing that type of player. Just remember, KW took over a 94 win team, one of the youngest in baseball, with a farm system ranked #1, and couldn't build a sustained winner. I don't know why anyone thinks this is going to be way different. They need more talent, and not taking the final step trying to get the biggest of those talents in their prime years is something that is going to hang over these dopes if they don't build a consistent winner.

Not defending KW, but the White Sox average record of 87-75 during his first 6 years as GM would qualify as a modest version of sustained success. It culminated in a World Series win and under today’s playoff format would have resulted in back to back playoff appearances in 2005 and 2006 and then another in 2008. I’d certainly take that same 2001-2008 stretch over the next 8 years and call it a big win.

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1 hour ago, soxfan2014 said:

The quality of this board improves greatly when you ignore certain users lol

I mean, I wish I knew what I was supposed to pull from 4 random articles, Haslam still sucks but Dorsey is good?

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4 hours ago, soxfan2014 said:

The quality of this board improves greatly when you ignore certain users lol

So put me on ignore.  Very simple.  Maybe you’re not interested in how an owner deciding not to interfere (finally) with his front office personnel and let them handle running the player evaluation and development has worked wonders for the Cleveland Browns, but 2-3 posters brought it up previously and argued they were much more relevant that the Sox.  Maybe you dont follow the sport, know who Odell Beckham is, frankly, no idea.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26243093/grading-odell-beckham-jr-trade-giants-browns-won

The NY Football Giants have already somehow outdone the Sox in worst offseason, ever.

At any rate, I seem to recall page after page in one of the baseball threads analyzing the Bulls, for example.  Life is too short to care about such little, insignificant things.

There’s an ignore button for a reason.

If you’re just going for cheap shots to get more likes on your board scorecard, I feel bad for you, but stalking posters from thread to thread and making personal attacks over and over again doesn’t contribute much.  The board has already lost a lot of contributors since the Machado/Harper debacles.

For example, I don’t have any recollection for what your plan is to get us out of this mess.  Which free agents would you target next year?   Maybe take an interesting/debate worthy position or two...

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7 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

So put me on ignore.  Very simple.  Maybe you’re not interested in how an owner deciding not to interfere (finally) with his front office personnel and let them handle running the player evaluation and development has worked wonders for the Cleveland Browns, but 2-3 posters brought it up previously and argued they were much more relevant that the Sox.  Maybe you dont follow the sport, know who Odell Beckham is, frankly, no idea.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26243093/grading-odell-beckham-jr-trade-giants-browns-won

The NY Football Giants have already somehow outdone the Sox in worst offseason, ever.

At any rate, I seem to recall page after page in one of the baseball threads analyzing the Bulls, for example.  Life is too short to care about such little, insignificant things.

There’s an ignore button for a reason.

If you’re just going for cheap shots to get more likes on your board scorecard, I feel bad for you, but stalking posters from thread to thread and making personal attacks over and over again doesn’t contribute much.  The board has already lost a lot of contributors since the Machado/Harper debacles.

For example, I don’t have any recollection for what your plan is to get us out of this mess.  Which free agents would you target next year?   Maybe take an interesting/debate worthy position or two...

I would never ignore caulfield. He is one of my idols.

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