KnightsOnMintSt Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Moncada said: I'd bet he starts in the minors but is called up for the first home series. Gotta have him make his mlb debut in Chicago!!! The Knights season does not start until after the White Sox home opener. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, KnightsOnMintSt said: The Knights season does not start until after the White Sox home opener. Aren’t they both April 4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said: This Eloy deal would look so much nicer if he was hitting behind Machado in the lineup, but whatever. Draft Vaughn, sign Castellanos/JD Martinez and suddenly this lineup looks pretty good heading forward. Rendon is now the next best guy available and he just turned down the Nationals extension offer. Sox still have a hole at 3B and I don’t expect anything but DH potential for Burger. Edited March 20, 2019 by Harper2Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 I think the White Sox are legitimately going to hit a ton of dingers this year. Problem being far too many of them will be Solo shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsOnMintSt Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, flavum said: Aren’t they both April 4? Yep, I got the days mixed up. However, if they called him up for the home opener, he would never have played a game this season with the Knights, since the Sox season starts on March 28th. So my guess is either he starts with the White Sox, or he comes up around the same time we all thought he would anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Just now, Harper2Sox said: Rendon is now the next best guy available and he just turned down the Nationals extension offer. It's tough to put together future lineups, but here goes. LF: Eloy CF: Robert RF: JD Martinez/Nick Castellanos 3B: Moncada SS: Anderson 2B: Madrigal 1B: Vaughn DH: Abreu C Collins That really isn't that bad on paper, and not all that unrealistic either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, Harper2Sox said: Rendon is now the next best guy available and he just turned down the Nationals extension offer. Sox still have a hole at 3B and I don’t expect anything but DH potential for Burger. Doh, forgot about Moncada moving to 3B and Madrigal. RF could be a nice FA area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said: It's tough to put together future lineups, but here goes. LF: Eloy CF: Robert RF: JD Martinez/Nick Castellanos 3B: Moncada SS: Anderson 2B: Madrigal 1B: Vaughn DH: Abreu C Collins That really isn't that bad on paper, and not all that unrealistic either. Didn't Hahn sort of hint that they won't go past a certain age with free agents? I almost feel like you can cross JDM off the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said: It's tough to put together future lineups, but here goes. LF: Eloy CF: Robert RF: JD Martinez/Nick Castellanos 3B: Moncada SS: Anderson 2B: Madrigal 1B: Vaughn DH: Abreu C Collins That really isn't that bad on paper, and not all that unrealistic either. I'm sorry, but I'd rather never see Jose Abreu play baseball again than to see JD Martinez or Nick Castellanos play Right every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 58 minutes ago, GenericUserName said: And that doesn't even include the last two years which are where the really money can be saved. I’m fine with this extension, but what he’s worth and what he would make going through the arbitration process are two separate matters and Kiley is missing the mark here IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I’m fine with this extension, but what he’s worth and what he would make going through the arbitration process are two separate matters and Kiley is missing the mark here IMO. Well one of those options years is irrelevant to arb, and the other option year is when he would be making 90% of what he's worth. I'm also guessing 43 is less than he would make in arb, if those options are worth pickng up. Edited March 20, 2019 by mqr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 If we had a Joc P in CF and another bat like Eloy or Machado the offense would be ok. Palka hitting .095. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, mqr said: I'm sorry, but I'd rather never see Jose Abreu play baseball again than to see JD Martinez or Nick Castellanos play Right every day. Eh, it's just a mock lineup. The point is that they should still be able to put together a good lineup looking forward even without Machado/Harper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Just to keep it positive I will say that this signing is at least one small step on a mile run for the Sox to win back my full interest and financial investment. As of today they still don’t have it. They may never will but if they can make a collection of moves that work out then it’s possible. If you are going to be cheap then you for damn sure better be smart. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Kris Bryant will likely end up earning a total of $70 to $75 million by going through the arbitration process year after year. Eloy has a long way to go to be as good as Bryant but it’s probably the best comparison. $43 million for 6 years or $77 million for 8 years has the potential to be a big savings of money if Eloy is everything he is expected to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) I really, really, really can't stand Garfien's optimism. His opinions will always be worthless. Edited March 20, 2019 by mqr 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDog847 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Predictions on how much WAR Mr. Jimenez puts up over the life of this contract (assuming both option years are picked up)? Over or under 30WAR? I'll take the over but barely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baker Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Back of the envelope, Eloy will have to accumulate about 28 War over 8 seasons (3.5 per season) to even out on the contract for both parties. Excellent deal for Eloy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, OneDog847 said: Predictions on how much WAR Mr. Jimenez puts up over the life of this contract (assuming both option years are picked up)? Over or under 30WAR? I'll take the over but barely. Under. 30 is like... a lot Edited March 20, 2019 by mqr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 27 minutes ago, Harper2Sox said: Rendon is now the next best guy available and he just turned down the Nationals extension offer. Sox still have a hole at 3B and I don’t expect anything but DH potential for Burger. He got this guy named Yoan Moncada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomPickle Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, OneDog847 said: Predictions on how much WAR Mr. Jimenez puts up over the life of this contract (assuming both option years are picked up)? Over or under 30WAR? I'll take the over but barely. Under, only 6 OFs have greater than 30 fWAR over the past 8 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Baker said: Back of the envelope, Eloy will have to accumulate about 28 War over 8 seasons (3.5 per season) to even out on the contract for both parties. Excellent deal for Eloy. I assume you didn't account for inflation both in the economy at large and in arbitration? Edited March 20, 2019 by mqr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 minute ago, OneDog847 said: Predictions on how much WAR Mr. Jimenez puts up over the life of this contract (assuming both option years are picked up)? Over or under 30WAR? I'll take the over but barely. I’m not a WAR guy, but if he plays 1200 games over the next 8 years, we’re all going to be happy with his numbers, WAR included. I’m already worried about his health...irrationally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Changes very little with this team for the next few years. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomPickle Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, flavum said: I’m not a WAR guy, but if he plays 1200 games over the next 8 years, we’re all going to be happy with his numbers, WAR included. I’m already worried about his health...irrationally. Eloy playing in 1200 games seems less likely than surpassing 30 WAR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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