whitesoxfan99 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 1 minute ago, fathom said: Nope, they keep getting worse and worse. There's not a single pitcher that you can look at 2021 and be confident in saying they'll give you 175 innings. Yep, Rodon post the shoulder injury just isn't electric anymore, Lopez and Giolito have basically sucked other than Lopez's September last year and Kopech and Cease are guys with arm trouble in their past or present so you aren't going to feel great about penciling them in either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Just now, SoxAce said: Keep Cease the hell away from Cooper please. I’d have no problem if they cleaned house and brought up Vizquel and McCatty. Can’t be worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Is it too early to start the 2020 draft thread? I've already started memorizing players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Anyone has the number of Tampa’s baserunners vs the Sox baserunners in this series? It’s gotta be embarrassingly bad at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Completely ridiculous Lopez started this inning. Meanwhile, Eloy is just insanely bad defensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Game 11 and I'm already over watching this team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 And I cant even really get on the players. In baseball you dont get better just because you try harder. You either have it or you dont. If you suck its the FO fault for having you in their plans and its the managers fault for rolling your suckage out there everyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Zunino is probably more embarrassed making an out this inning than Hahn/KW are for this crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 *watching* Ball Ball Ball *screams "throw strikes!"* Strike - Double in gap *"...uh throw balls again"* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, DirtySox said: Is it too early to start the 2020 draft thread? I've already started memorizing players. I'm all in on Dylan Crews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Watching this Rays organization makes me realize we will never be good. Not like them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Every Rays hitter: 280avg+, 350 OBP+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, SoxAce said: Keep Cease the hell away from Cooper please. When he is throwing 92 with a new cutter and zero curveball you will know Coops work has been done. Years of fathom talking about missing velocity when our prospects get here is founded in reality. Sure Buerhle threw 89 but his cutter also moved a foot. Not everyone is cookie cutter. If that was the case every right hander learning a cutter would be Mariano Rivera. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuliusO1274 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 lol Renteria actually tried to put Lopez out there for another inning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDog847 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, whitesoxfan99 said: Yep, Rodon post the shoulder injury just isn't electric anymore, Lopez and Giolito have basically sucked other than Lopez's September last year and Kopech and Cease are guys with arm trouble in their past or present so you aren't going to feel great about penciling them in either. Yep. The Sox are gonna have to spend some big bucks on pitching here soon. Otherwise, we are looking at another 3-4 years of tanking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Just remember...ride with us, or get run over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Just now, southsideirish71 said: When he is throwing 92 with a new cutter and zero curveball you will know Coops work has been done. Years of fathom talking about missing velocity when our prospects get here is founded in reality. Sure Buerhle threw 89 but his cutter also moved a foot. Not everyone is cookie cutter. If that was the case every right hander learning a cutter would be Mariano Rivera. I also think Buehrle would have been destroyed in today's era. But yes, the standing tall and not trying to maximize velocity is an antiquated approach. It's not like Cooper can point to his track record for keeping guys healthy anyways. I think a key thing to focus on is that the trend in baseball is 5 productive innings and then go to the bullpen. I don't believe Cooper and the Sox org believes this at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, reiks12 said: Every Rays hitter: 280avg+, 350 OBP+ Well you have to take into account they've played the white sox three times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Just now, fathom said: I also think Buehrle would have been destroyed in today's era. But yes, the standing tall and not trying to maximize velocity is an antiquated approach. It's not like Cooper can point to his track record for keeping guys healthy anyways. I think a key thing to focus on is that the trend in baseball is 5 productive innings and then go to the bullpen. I don't believe Cooper and the Sox org believes this at all. They want to recreate 4 complete games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Glasnow FB Strike FB Strike Hook Beauty. Can't believe this is the dude that looked like reylo 2 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 1 minute ago, fathom said: I also think Buehrle would have been destroyed in today's era. But yes, the standing tall and not trying to maximize velocity is an antiquated approach. It's not like Cooper can point to his track record for keeping guys healthy anyways. I think a key thing to focus on is that the trend in baseball is 5 productive innings and then go to the bullpen. I don't believe Cooper and the Sox org believes this at all. They dont believe in developing defense in the minors nor the majors. They dont believe in technology. Its a beer league team waiting for the geezers to fall off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 White Sox - traded a more valuable piece in Adam Eaton 2 1/2 years ago for 2 ML ready piece and another prospect and 2 1/2 years later still trying "develop" these 2 ML ready pieces. Rays - traded a declining pitcher for 2 ML ready piece and another prospect and are reaping off those pieces immediately. Call it better scouting, better player development, one is clearly a better ran organization, despite having to work with much less. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 12 minutes ago, whitesoxfan99 said: Yep, Rodon post the shoulder injury just isn't electric anymore, Lopez and Giolito have basically sucked other than Lopez's September last year and Kopech and Cease are guys with arm trouble in their past or present so you aren't going to feel great about penciling them in either. Rodon I'm willing to hold judgment on, his peripherals look good at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Palka is dunzo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Just now, thxfrthmmrs said: White Sox - traded a more valuable piece in Adam Eaton 2 1/2 years ago for 2 ML ready piece and another prospect and 2 1/2 years later still trying "develop" these 2 ML ready pieces. Rays - traded a declining pitcher for 2 ML ready piece and another prospect and are reaping off those pieces immediately. Call it better scouting, better player development, one is clearly a better ran organization, despite having to work with much less. Great post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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