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10 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

Because they didn't draft him.

So teams are only interested in the guy they draft? Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?

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5 hours ago, Harry Chappas said:

or Alec Thomas

The only prominent “local guy” we heard some smoke around recently was Schnell. 

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On 10/17/2019 at 2:10 PM, Harry Chappas said:

or Alec Thomas

They didn't take Alek Thomas because Allen Thomas didn't want them to. The family had a deal worked out with Arizona. 

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The way too early top 11 mock draft:

1. Detroit Austin Martin SS Vandy
2. Baltimore Emerson Hancock RHP Georgia
3. Miami Cole Wilcox RHP Georgia
4. Kansas City Spencer Torkelson 1B Arizona St
5. Toronto Garrett Mitchell OF UCLA
6. Seattle Jared Kelly RHP Refugio HS
7. Pittsburgh JT Ginn RHP Mississippi St
8. San Diego Pete Crow Armstrong OF Harvard Westlake HS
9. Colorado Ed Howard SS Mt Carmel HS
10. LA Angels Cade Cavalli RHP Oklahoma
11. Chicago WS Tommy Mace RHP Florida

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On 10/21/2019 at 2:04 PM, Y2Jimmy0 said:

They didn't take Alek Thomas because Allen Thomas didn't want them to. The family had a deal worked out with Arizona. 

And possibly because of the rumor that they thought due to Alek's dad being Allen, he was likely far more physically mature than his counterparts and may have maxed out his strength and frame earlier than those others that had much more projection in their frame. 

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16 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

The way too early top 11 mock draft:

1. Detroit Austin Martin SS Vandy
2. Baltimore Emerson Hancock RHP Georgia
3. Miami Cole Wilcox RHP Georgia
4. Kansas City Spencer Torkelson 1B Arizona St
5. Toronto Garrett Mitchell OF UCLA
6. Seattle Jared Kelly RHP Refugio HS
7. Pittsburgh JT Ginn RHP Mississippi St
8. San Diego Pete Crow Armstrong OF Harvard Westlake HS
9. Colorado Ed Howard SS Mt Carmel HS
10. LA Angels Cade Cavalli RHP Oklahoma
11. Chicago WS Tommy Mace RHP Florida

oof. Austin Martin just sounds like a name that will terrorize sox for years.

Not a lot of lhp at the top I see.

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18 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

The way too early top 11 mock draft:

1. Detroit Austin Martin SS Vandy
2. Baltimore Emerson Hancock RHP Georgia
3. Miami Cole Wilcox RHP Georgia
4. Kansas City Spencer Torkelson 1B Arizona St
5. Toronto Garrett Mitchell OF UCLA
6. Seattle Jared Kelly RHP Refugio HS
7. Pittsburgh JT Ginn RHP Mississippi St
8. San Diego Pete Crow Armstrong OF Harvard Westlake HS
9. Colorado Ed Howard SS Mt Carmel HS
10. LA Angels Cade Cavalli RHP Oklahoma
11. Chicago WS Tommy Mace RHP Florida

Means nothing, but is there a deeper mock or is this it?

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1 hour ago, bmags said:

oof. Austin Martin just sounds like a name that will terrorize sox for years.

Not a lot of lhp at the top I see.

There are a few college LHP who could be in the mix.  Garrett Crochet (Tennessee) has been up to 97 this fall with a plus breaking ball.  Consistent strikes have been an issue.  Asa Lacy (Texas A&M) and Reid Detmers (Louisville) are pitchability guys who have seen a bump in velo this fall.  Jake Eder and Hugh Fisher (both Vandy) are also guys who could make a jump in the spring.  It's a very deep college pitching class.  

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What strategy would you prefer at 11:

Getting a polished and skilled guy with limited upside but a solid chance to become a bottom of the line-up bat or back of the rotation starter (with the floor of being a decent bench bat or pen arm) or a high upside guy with a serious flaw and bust potential who could be a plus player or bust in the minors?

At 11 you probably can't have ceiling and floor (those guys are gone top5) so you have to decide. Is the core good enough to start supplementing with good depth or do they need to try to find one more star even if it means risking a bust?

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A team should never draft for need but it's nice when a draft is deep in a need like this one is with college pitching.  RHP Tommy Mace was 91-94 with a plus breaking ball last night.  LHP Asa Lacy was also up to 94 last night.  Garrett Crotchet has been up to 97 this fall and Cade Cavalli up to 98 with a power BB and that's not even mentioning the three top guys in RHP Emerson Hancock, RHP Cole Wilcox and RHP JT Ginn.  I think they will have their choice of a few floor/ceiling college pitchers at 11 as all these guys have a chance to develop into a top of the rotation guy.  

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1 minute ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

A team should never draft for need but it's nice when a draft is deep in a need like this one is with college pitching.  RHP Tommy Mace was 91-94 with a plus breaking ball last night.  LHP Asa Lacy was also up to 94 last night.  Garrett Crotchet has been up to 97 this fall and Cade Cavalli up to 98 with a power BB and that's not even mentioning the three top guys in RHP Emerson Hancock, RHP Cole Wilcox and RHP JT Ginn.  I think they will have their choice of a few floor/ceiling college pitchers at 11 as all these guys have a chance to develop into a top of the rotation guy.  

Yes, this is actually the perfect time for this type of draft for the sox, though recently it has felt like if a draft is deep at a position they swerve the other way.

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Without further ado....

1. Detroit Austin Martin SS Vandy
2. Baltimore Emerson Hancock RHP Georgia
3. Miami Cole Wilcox RHP Georgia
4. Kansas City Spencer Torkelson 1B Arizona St
5. Toronto Garrett Mitchell OF UCLA
6. Seattle Jared Kelly RHP Refugio HS
7. Pittsburgh JT Ginn RHP Mississippi St
8. San Diego Pete Crow Armstrong OF Harvard Westlake HS
9. Colorado Ed Howard SS Mt Carmel HS
10. LA Angels Asa Lacy LHP Texas A&M
11. Chicago WS Tommy Mace RHP Florida
12. Cincinnati Casey Martin SS Arkansas
13. San Francisco Mick Abel RHP Jesuit HS
14. Texas Cade Cavalli RHP Oklahoma
15. Philadelphia Dylan Crews OF Lake St Mary's HS
16. Chicago Cubs Garrett Crochet LHP Tennessee
17. Boston Zac Veen OF Spruce Creek HS
18. Arizona Nick Gonzales 2B New Mexico St
19. NY Mets Nate Savino LHP Potomac Falls HS
20. Milwaukee Robert Hassell OF Independance HS
21. St Louis Reid Detmers LHP Louisville
22. Washington Patrick Bailey C NC State
23. Cleveland Blaze Jordan 1B DeSoto Central HS
24. Tampa Bay Heston Kjerstad OF Arkansas
25. Atlanta Hugh Fisher LHP Vandy
26. Oakland Tanner Burns RHP Auburn
27. Minnesota Carmen Mlodzinski RHP South Carolina
28. NY Yankees Austin Hendrick OF West Allegheny HS
29. LA Dodgers Jake Eder LHP Vandy
30. Houston Jordan Walker 3B Decatur HS

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5 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

Without further ado....

1. Detroit Austin Martin SS Vandy
2. Baltimore Emerson Hancock RHP Georgia
3. Miami Cole Wilcox RHP Georgia
4. Kansas City Spencer Torkelson 1B Arizona St
5. Toronto Garrett Mitchell OF UCLA
6. Seattle Jared Kelly RHP Refugio HS
7. Pittsburgh JT Ginn RHP Mississippi St
8. San Diego Pete Crow Armstrong OF Harvard Westlake HS
9. Colorado Ed Howard SS Mt Carmel HS
10. LA Angels Asa Lacy LHP Texas A&M
11. Chicago WS Tommy Mace RHP Florida
12. Cincinnati Casey Martin SS Arkansas
13. San Francisco Mick Abel RHP Jesuit HS
14. Texas Cade Cavalli RHP Oklahoma
15. Philadelphia Dylan Crews OF Lake St Mary's HS
16. Chicago Cubs Garrett Crochet LHP Tennessee
17. Boston Zac Veen OF Spruce Creek HS
18. Arizona Nick Gonzales 2B New Mexico St
19. NY Mets Nate Savino LHP Potomac Falls HS
20. Milwaukee Robert Hassell OF Independance HS
21. St Louis Reid Detmers LHP Louisville
22. Washington Patrick Bailey C NC State
23. Cleveland Blaze Jordan 1B DeSoto Central HS
24. Tampa Bay Heston Kjerstad OF Arkansas
25. Atlanta Hugh Fisher LHP Vandy
26. Oakland Tanner Burns RHP Auburn
27. Minnesota Carmen Mlodzinski RHP South Carolina
28. NY Yankees Austin Hendrick OF West Allegheny HS
29. LA Dodgers Jake Eder LHP Vandy
30. Houston Jordan Walker 3B Decatur HS

Jordan and Kjerstad both interesting names late

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On 11/2/2019 at 6:09 AM, Dominikk85 said:

What strategy would you prefer at 11:

Getting a polished and skilled guy with limited upside but a solid chance to become a bottom of the line-up bat or back of the rotation starter (with the floor of being a decent bench bat or pen arm) or a high upside guy with a serious flaw and bust potential who could be a plus player or bust in the minors?

At 11 you probably can't have ceiling and floor (those guys are gone top5) so you have to decide. Is the core good enough to start supplementing with good depth or do they need to try to find one more star even if it means risking a bust?

I'd always take the 2nd guy. You're probably going to miss more than you hit, but the hits will be HR. 

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On ‎11‎/‎4‎/‎2019 at 8:16 AM, Harold's Leg Lift said:

I could be light on both.  This is such a deep draft.  Gonna be fun to see how it shakes out.  

In your opinion...Is this a deep enough draft that the White Sox should be wary of giving up draft picks by signing someone with a QO?

I ask because I really like the direction the Sox went last year drafting Thompson and Dahlquist and buying them out of their college commitments.  That kind of strategy could set them up for long term success imho.

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2 hours ago, wegner said:

In your opinion...Is this a deep enough draft that the White Sox should be wary of giving up draft picks by signing someone with a QO?

I ask because I really like the direction the Sox went last year drafting Thompson and Dahlquist and buying them out of their college commitments.  That kind of strategy could set them up for long term success imho.

They should give up the 2nd round pick for a difference maker.  Cole, Strasburg, Rendon, Bumgarner, Donaldson and Wheeler are all no brainers.  Ozuna is a tough call.  He's not really a difference maker but the OF market is so bad he's one of the better options.  I don't think they should give up the pick (and pool money) for Smith or Odorizzi.  Those guys are more pieces to the puzzle guys than difference makers and I don't think the Sox are at that point yet.  They can add players like that next off season.  

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25 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

They should give up the 2nd round pick for a difference maker.  Cole, Strasburg, Rendon, Bumgarner, Donaldson and Wheeler are all no brainers.  Ozuna is a tough call.  He's not really a difference maker but the OF market is so bad he's one of the better options.  I don't think they should give up the pick (and pool money) for Smith or Odorizzi.  Those guys are more pieces to the puzzle guys than difference makers and I don't think the Sox are at that point yet.  They can add players like that next off season.  

Thanks.  I appreciate your opinion.  If they are losing a pick, that should mean we are having an interesting  off season.  I thought  they might have gone after Odorizzi but certainly not after the QO was attached to him.

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1 hour ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

I don't have a BA account.  Can you post the top 10's?  Thanks!

Will do top 15 of each shortly.

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