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4 minutes ago, EvilJester99 said:

Bottom 3 of this staff are just horrid.. top 2 haven't been good either but think they turn it around. 

To be honest I don't think anyone on this staff, with Giolito's current performance, is an MLB starter. That includes Rodon.

Speaking of Noodle Arms.....WTF was that from Eloy. 

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Just now, Jack Parkman said:

To be honest I don't think anyone on this staff, with Giolito's current performance, is an MLB starter. That includes Rodon.

Speaking of Noodle Arms.....WTF was that from Eloy. 

You don't think Rodon is an MLB starter? Come on

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14 minutes ago, fathom said:

and you would probably say Giolito is the most talented player on the roster still :)  Could play this game all night.  Let's just drop it and hope for the best with Lucas.

He's not. That would be Moncada. If Rodon threw 94-96 and had any idea where his fastball was going it would be him. Rodon in his current iteration is a bullpen arm. 

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1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said:

To be honest I don't think anyone on this staff, with Giolito's current performance, is an MLB starter. That includes Rodon.

Speaking of Noodle Arms.....WTF was that from Eloy. 

Rodon is a starter, just not an ace. He still has a plus pitch. You can’t say anyone else on the staff has an above average pitch.

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Just now, soxfan49 said:

You don't think Rodon is an MLB starter? Come on

Nope. 

He has 2 breaking pitches, his fastball command is worse than Giolito's and he throws 92 mph. 

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Just now, Jack Parkman said:

Nope. 

He has 2 breaking pitches, his fastball command is worse than Giolito's and he throws 92 mph. 

So you don't think he's even a #5 starter?

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2 minutes ago, soxfan49 said:

So you don't think he's even a #5 starter?

At best. The only thing that keeps him there is that both his slider and slurve are both ++. IMO he'd be a lights out bullpen piece. He misses bats but he doesn't throw enough strikes. 

Even before he was injured, Rodon struggled to get to the 5th without 85+ pitches. 

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Just now, Jack Parkman said:

At best. The only thing that keeps him there is that both his slider and slurve are both ++. IMO he'd be a lights out bullpen piece. He misses bats but he doesn't throw enough strikes. 

You’re nuts bro.

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Really hope for 

1 minute ago, Whitesox27 said:

Abreu has looked really mediocre this season.

Hope for his sake he gets traded to a contender. He looks disinterested and deserves to be on a contender.

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3 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

You’re nuts bro.

Last season's Rodon was a mid rotation guy(#3-4) , with the potential for more. Rodon in 2019 is a bullpen arm. 

Rodon's not going to get away with throwing 91. 

To be fair, Giolito doesn't throw enough strikes either, but he has more than 2 pitches. Rodon has 2 great breaking balls, but his fastball and changeup are well below average in 2019. 

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I've watched 3 games this season and it's probably going to stay that way for a while 

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2 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

Last season's Rodon was a mid rotation guy(#3-4) , with the potential for more. Rodon in 2019 is a bullpen arm. 

Rodon's not going to get away with throwing 91. 

2019 Rodon has a sub 2 FIP.  While that’s a mirage, at worst he’s a back end starter.

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I am baffled by the fact that our pitching struggles in the 1st and 2nd innings constantly and that has been past seasons too. Is that a lack of preparation, bad coaching or both?

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If the White Sox keeping putting Giolito out there he will eventually have a few starts where he looks good and like he found it. Hopefully this next time people will remember that it doesn't mean anything and he always goes right back to garage within a few starts. We've seen it happen numerous times so far his White Sox career. 

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