bmags Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 When successful and smart organizations get rid of pitching coaches like they have people scouts then I'll stop holding our own pitching coaches accountable for the success of the players. It's not like I am demanding coop fix Ervin Santana or James Shields, I just want to see our young pitching prospects sustain success under him instead of being vacillating between bad and "worst pitcher in baseball". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 7 hours ago, Whitesox27 said: How many guys has he even fixed during his time here? Thornton, Quintana, and Kahnle? Anyone else? Uh...Jenks, Loiaza, Floyd, Santiago, Santos, Humber, all come to mind The list is pretty extensive, he's turned a lot of absolute messes into competent arms To me Coop is still one of the best in the game, certainly not the problem although I would like to see more consistency from Lopez and Gio 6 hours ago, Buehrle>Wood said: What he did with Phil Humber should be mentioned, even if it was only for 1 season (and then 1 perfect game the next year). But he overall has a pretty extensive list while here IMO. Yup, not the issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Don't forget that pitchers everywhere are in peril and teams are ramping up specialties for pitching roles. The game is in flux and who knows where it will lead. Not sure how we see Coop fitting in. I suppose he is more traditional. There is a reason why he is leery about velocity. Maybe AI will take over the game and it won't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) Kahnle was sent to the minors and came back dealing. How does Coop get credit? It seems anyone who has ever struggled but has a decent stretch owes his career to Coop. Like the same thing doesn't happen all around the league. Isn't making pitchers perform better part of the job description Edited April 15, 2019 by Dick Allen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 10 hours ago, Whitesox27 said: How many guys has he even fixed during his time here? Thornton, Quintana, and Kahnle? Anyone else? You must be young. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Cooper leaves when he wants to. The next manager of the Sox won’t even have a say in his pitching coach. It is what it is when your team is owned by Jerry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Cooper is 63 years old. Time for a promotion to talent evaluator asst. to Kenny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 12 hours ago, poppysox said: Cooper is 63 years old. Time for a promotion to talent evaluator asst. to Kenny. That's the amazing thing to me. Coop seemed like he was at least 63 years old 15 years ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotHahn Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 On 4/15/2019 at 11:49 AM, Chicago White Sox said: Rodon, Giolito, & Lopez were concensus top 50 prospects and the former two guys were top 10 at one point. I don’t blame him for Lucas as he had lost a ton of his prospect shine before coming here, but he should be held responsible for Rodon & Lopez. Lopez & Giolito looked ok this time around. Not sure if it was just KC being awful or they are pitching better. Its pretty early to be judging pitching though. But at the end of the year they need to take a long look at the coaching staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWINFan Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 On 4/17/2019 at 7:13 AM, Dick Allen said: That's the amazing thing to me. Coop seemed like he was at least 63 years old 15 years ago. Me, too. I thought the oxygen stopped making its way to his brain right after the 2005 Series. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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