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1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said:

A buddy of mine who is a diehard Cubs fan and generally has had nothing nice to say about the White Sox randomly told me last night that Tim Anderson is now his favorite White Sox player.  Seems like most baseball fans across the country (below ~40 in age) love that Tim plays with emotion and isn’t going to change because some bully with a baseball tells him otherwise.  It’s really nice to see it’s not just Sox fans getting behind this.

The reaction on this board is disproportionate to what I've seen online. Tim Anderson has been making a name for himself of a national scale in an overwhelmingly positive way. Both baseball fans and non-baseball fans adore him right now. 

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14 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

A buddy of mine who is a diehard Cubs fan and generally has had nothing nice to say about the White Sox randomly told me last night that Tim Anderson is now his favorite White Sox player.  Seems like most baseball fans across the country (below ~40 in age) love that Tim plays with emotion and isn’t going to change because some bully with a baseball tells him otherwise.  It’s really nice to see it’s not just Sox fans getting behind this.

Hey there are a few of us over 40 crowd (way over ) that say celebrate whenever you want. Life is too short. Be happy in the moment, any moment. Celebrate life. A really good hitter fails 7 of 10 times so live it up when you succeed while you can.

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I’ve never knew so many white people had options about how we, black people, use the N Word. So many bad takes out there pouring in from so many dumb people in and out of the game. 

If you haven’t read Micah Johnson’s take, I advise you to. 

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On 4/21/2019 at 7:31 AM, Chisox378 said:

This is all about the virtue of temperance and sportsmanship. A little celebration is ok but shouldn't be taken too far (as 5 minute dances and skits in the NFL), and it also depends on the circumstance and intention. Circumstance in that the celebration after winning a championship is different then a player hitting a double. Intention in that if a player taunts the other team it is not sportsmanship.

This is all bullshit.  All of it.   You should be able to celebrate more when you hit a home run, not less.  This is a game and people should have fun, they shouldn't be guided by bullshit unwritten rules and "temperance and sportsmanship" concepts that only apply when someone gets their feelings hurt because they happened to suck at that moment

this game should be fun to watch not some polite display of 1950s "sportsmanship"

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25 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

This is all bullshit.  All of it.   You should be able to celebrate more when you hit a home run, not less.  This is a game and people should have fun, they shouldn't be guided by bullshit unwritten rules and "temperance and sportsmanship" concepts that only apply when someone gets their feelings hurt because they happened to suck at that moment

this game should be fun to watch not some polite display of 1950s "sportsmanship"

So showing someone up and taunting them is ok?

Allowing too much celebrattion is going to get tempers flaring too, there will be a negative revenge factor. Maybe we should let the players box after the game?

I'd rather watch a classy game where players are humble than some sort of theatrical show.

If I was a player I would never have time to throw a bat, I'd be running too hard to first base.

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8 hours ago, Joshua Strong said:
48 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

This is all bullshit.  All of it.   You should be able to celebrate more when you hit a home run, not less.  This is a game and people should have fun, they shouldn't be guided by bullshit unwritten rules and "temperance and sportsmanship" concepts that only apply when someone gets their feelings hurt because they happened to suck at that moment

this game should be fun to watch not some polite display of 1950s "sportsmanship"

It will get pretty silly if all hitters decided to celebrate their home runs before running around the bases. Besides baseball said Tim wasn't suspended for throwing the bat, but for saying something while going to first after he got hit. In the NL, do pitchers get hit when they excessively celebrate a strikeout? There shouldn't be a double standard in the unwritten rules. If you don't hit the reliever who rarely steps to the plate, then I guess you have to hit the catcher to prove your point.

 

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34 minutes ago, Chisox378 said:

So showing someone up and taunting them is ok?

Allowing too much celebrattion is going to get tempers flaring too, there will be a negative revenge factor. Maybe we should let the players box after the game?

I'd rather watch a classy game where players are humble than some sort of theatrical show.

If I was a player I would never have time to throw a bat, I'd be running too hard to first base.

Classy and humble pitchers who pump their fists and stare down players after they get the final out of a inning.  It's a meaningless inning why do they do that?  Who fucking cares, have fun

classy players who drive in a run and do the monster horns on their helmet at first towards their dugout.  It's a meaningless April game why do they do that?  Who fucking cares, have fun

classy outfielders who make a great diving catch and jump up and jump bump the right fielder on the way in to the dugout.   It's a meaningless April game why do they do that?  Who fucking cares, have fun.

your idea of "temperance and sportsmanship" is outdated and sucks.   I'm sure you can find a men's softball rec league that follows your idea of class.   Actually you can't, I play it and we have a lot of fun.

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10 minutes ago, greg775 said:

 

Learn how to use the board already jfc

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10 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Hey there are a few of us over 40 crowd (way over ) that say celebrate whenever you want. Life is too short. Be happy in the moment, any moment. Celebrate life. A really good hitter fails 7 of 10 times so live it up when you succeed while you can.

I didn’t mean any ill-will or to suggest all people over 40 believe in the unwritten rules.  It was more an observation that the younger fans across the country (regardless of team affiliation) seem to be supporting Tim which is cool IMO.

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1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I didn’t mean any ill-will or to suggest all people over 40 believe in the unwritten rules.  It was more an observation that the younger fans across the country (regardless of team affiliation) seem to be supporting Tim which is cool IMO.

My problem is the uneven enforcement of when people should be allowed to celebrate.   It's total bullshit, a homerun is the best possible thing a hitter can do and people are like "nah,  not cool to be excited".  Fuck that 

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1 hour ago, Kyyle23 said:

My problem is the uneven enforcement of when people should be allowed to celebrate.   It's total bullshit, a homerun is the best possible thing a hitter can do and people are like "nah,  not cool to be excited".  Fuck that 

I think baseball players have made it clear they will continue to enforce the unwritten rules. If Timmy does that again, look for him to get hit again. Then depending on how he reacts will determine if there's a fight or not and suspensions. I'm not sure why players allow guys who hit doubles to look in the dugout and do the horns on the helmet. I would think that's equally deserving of getting hit the next time up.

One thing I noticed in the Robin era the Sox didn't do a lot of retaliating for one of their players getting hit. I haven't noticed in the Ricky era much cause I've pretty much lost interest and am wasting my MLB subscription money.

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Just now, greg775 said:

I think baseball players have made it clear they will continue to enforce the unwritten rules. If Timmy does that again, look for him to get hit again. Then depending on how he reacts will determine if there's a fight or not and suspensions. I'm not sure why players allow guys who hit doubles to look in the dugout and do the horns on the helmet. I would think that's equally deserving of getting hit the next time up.

One thing I noticed in the Robin era the Sox didn't do a lot of retaliating for one of their players getting hit. I haven't noticed in the Ricky era much cause I've pretty much lost interest and am wasting my MLB subscription money.

Then the league should get involved in either writing down these dumb ass rules, or sufficiently punish people who use force to enforce them to get rid of them. 

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8 minutes ago, greg775 said:

I think baseball players have made it clear they will continue to enforce the unwritten rules. If Timmy does that again, look for him to get hit again. Then depending on how he reacts will determine if there's a fight or not and suspensions. I'm not sure why players allow guys who hit doubles to look in the dugout and do the horns on the helmet. I would think that's equally deserving of getting hit the next time up.

One thing I noticed in the Robin era the Sox didn't do a lot of retaliating for one of their players getting hit. I haven't noticed in the Ricky era much cause I've pretty much lost interest and am wasting my MLB subscription money.

Thank you for illustrating why young people aren't interested in baseball anymore, top notch 

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26 minutes ago, mqr said:

Then the league should get involved in either writing down these dumb ass rules, or sufficiently punish people who use force to enforce them to get rid of them. 

New unwritten rule:

If you enforce an unwritten rule, the batter can charge the mound with a bat.

Don't like it? Thems the unwritten rules.

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2 hours ago, Kyyle23 said:

Classy and humble pitchers who pump their fists and stare down players after they get the final out of a inning.  It's a meaningless inning why do they do that?  Who fucking cares, have fun

classy players who drive in a run and do the monster horns on their helmet at first towards their dugout.  It's a meaningless April game why do they do that?  Who fucking cares, have fun

classy outfielders who make a great diving catch and jump up and jump bump the right fielder on the way in to the dugout.   It's a meaningless April game why do they do that?  Who fucking cares, have fun.

your idea of "temperance and sportsmanship" is outdated and sucks.   I'm sure you can find a men's softball rec league that follows your idea of class.   Actually you can't, I play it and we have a lot of fun.

The beauty of baseball is any moment can be a game winner.  A solo shot in the first is the difference in a 1-0 game.  Why can guys only celebrate walk-off or late game plays when an early inning moment can be just as important?  I’m not suggesting the team should rush the field after a 3rd inning home-run, but Tim should be allowed to flip his damn bat and celebrate with his team after any play of significance.  These unwritten rules are just straight up dumb and all they do is help adult men with raging egos not catch feelings when they fuck up in a game.

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4 hours ago, Kyyle23 said:

This is all bullshit.  All of it.   You should be able to celebrate more when you hit a home run, not less.  This is a game and people should have fun, they shouldn't be guided by bullshit unwritten rules and "temperance and sportsmanship" concepts that only apply when someone gets their feelings hurt because they happened to suck at that moment

this game should be fun to watch not some polite display of 1950s "sportsmanship"

I agree, and I'll add that it's not even 1950s sportsmanship. It stems back to the mid-late 19th century, before the White Sox even existed. The unwritten rules were originally put in place to prevent African-Americans and women from being able to "tarnish" the game. They're even more inherently racist/sexist than most would assume. 

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12 hours ago, Joshua Strong said:

I’ve never knew so many white people had options about how we, black people, use the N Word. So many bad takes out there pouring in from so many dumb people in and out of the game. 

If you haven’t read Micah Johnson’s take, I advise you to. 

My opinion probably isn't going to be very popular but it's really noone has a license to use the word due to it's history. 

And the reasoning to why is really simple it's because the people who were affected most before emancipation have long since passed and don't have a voice. 

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4 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I didn’t mean any ill-will or to suggest all people over 40 believe in the unwritten rules.  It was more an observation that the younger fans across the country (regardless of team affiliation) seem to be supporting Tim which is cool IMO.

I know you didn't mean any ill will. I am not so thin skinned. I just wanted to make sure u know there are a lot of oldies but goodies hanging around here. Just be careful I might blast some rock music your way on my "quadraphonic blaupunkt" (baseball movie reference alert)

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1 hour ago, wrathofhahn said:

My opinion probably isn't going to be very popular but it's really noone has a license to use the word due to it's history. 

And the reasoning to why is really simple it's because the people who were affected most before emancipation have long since passed and don't have a voice. 

Well hot damn, at least you knew this was a dumb take before you said it.

Hey bud, less than one lifetime ago was the civil rights movement. People who go back to slavery while citing oppression are some of the most ignorant people alive. Black people still struggle to this day with true equality and extreme oppression was still taking place in this country when my father was born.

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Jackie Robinson was getting called that word everyday of his life - threatened with it. Degraded by it. Yet there are people here citing the emancipation proclamation as the end of black oppression and hate... only those who lived during slavery can hand out the permission to use that word because life has been peachy and fair since the emancipation. I dont even know if that word mattered to slaves. The degradation of humans doesnt get much worse than forced labor without pay and legalized rape of their women. The use of it post slavery was a reminder that they may he free but they were not equal.

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4 hours ago, greg775 said:

I think baseball players have made it clear they will continue to enforce the unwritten rules. If Timmy does that again, look for him to get hit again. Then depending on how he reacts will determine if there's a fight or not and suspensions. I'm not sure why players allow guys who hit doubles to look in the dugout and do the horns on the helmet. I would think that's equally deserving of getting hit the next time up.

One thing I noticed in the Robin era the Sox didn't do a lot of retaliating for one of their players getting hit. I haven't noticed in the Ricky era much cause I've pretty much lost interest and am wasting my MLB subscription money.

Do you realize how actually literally insane it is to suggest that it is just and right to physically attack people as a response to being embarrassed?

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Just now, Eminor3rd said:

Do you realize how actually literally insane it is to suggest that it is just and right to physically attack people as a response to being embarrassed?

"They beat me and hurt my feelings. I should physically attack them."

In baseball, this would command the death sentence.

Your honor, I present my evidence that the Chicago Bears should be contracted.

 

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2 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Jackie Robinson was getting called that word everyday of his life - threatened with it. Degraded by it. Yet there are people here citing the emancipation proclamation as the end of black oppression and hate... only those who lived during slavery can hand out the permission to use that word because life has been peachy and fair since the emancipation. I dont even know if that word mattered to slaves. The degradation of humans doesnt get much worse than forced labor without pay and legalized rape of their women. The use of it post slavery was a reminder that they may he free but they were not equal.

I never cited it being the end of black oppression but the word is rooted in slavery.

I just find it disrespectful like for example if someone who is jewish started called themselves Untermensch I would find that disrespectful to the victims of the holocaust (my family is jewish).

But people are allowed to do/believe whatever they want regardless of your personal feelings of the word (or mine) it clearly is inappropriate for a place of business.

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